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The result was no consensus. Randykitty ( talk) 10:06, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Libertarian Party of North Dakota
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Non-notable state branch of a notable federal party. Toa Nidhiki05 12:36, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Politics, and North Dakota. Shellwood ( talk) 12:45, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of state parties of the Libertarian Party (United States) Reywas92 Talk 13:11, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep hundreds of hits in North Dakota press over a 30+ year period, national press coverage of the state party, some SIGCOV examples. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]
References
- ^ Dura, Jack (9 Jan 2020). "ND Libertarian Party regains ballot access". Newspapers.com. The Bismarck Tribune.
- ^ Smith, Nick (28 Sep 2014). "Libertarians attempt to win three offices". Newspapers.com. The Bismarck Tribune.
- ^ "Libertarian Party ballot approval". Newspapers.com. The Bismarck Tribune. 31 Aug 2013.
- ^ "Libertarian party trying to get on N.D. ballot". Newspapers.com. The Bismarck Tribune. 11 Jul 1987.
- ^ Dura, Jack (28 Feb 2022). "North Dakota Libertarians to focus on 2024 elections". Bismarck Tribune.
- ^ Boewn, Joe (26 May 2021). "After running as a Democrat, Roland Riemers voted out of North Dakota Libertarian Party". Grand Forks Herald.
- ^ "North Dakota Libertarian Party to appear on ballot this year". AP NEWS. 8 January 2020.
- ^ Wootson Jr, Cleve R (16 October 2016). "'Make America Rape Again': A libertarian candidate's argument against 'rape culture'". Washington Post.
- ^ "Libertarians picking up momentum in ND". minotdailynews.com. 4 September 2016.
- An evident lack of
WP:BEFORE with these nominations. Regards, --
Goldsztajn (
talk)
11:03, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- @
Goldsztajn: Can I ask how you can believe that a trivial local newspaper mention about a political party gaining access to a ballot amounts to significant coverage?
AusLondonder (
talk)
15:41, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- @ AusLondonder I assume you are talking about the first article. It's an illustrated piece of about 300 words from an almost 150 year old daily newspaper that covers half the state. The entire piece covers the party and does not require original research to extract information. What's trivial? The newspaper? The issue? SIGCOV is a qualitative assessment, not quantitative, it relates to the source itself; note the words "more than a trivial mention" in SIGCOV. The article is clearly more than a trivial mention of the Party in North Dakota. Regards, Goldsztajn ( talk) 10:55, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- @
Goldsztajn: Can I ask how you can believe that a trivial local newspaper mention about a political party gaining access to a ballot amounts to significant coverage?
AusLondonder (
talk)
15:41, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete or Redirect to List of state parties of the Libertarian Party (United States) or somewhere else. I don't really care, but there needs to multiple in-depth sources that are independent of the subject justify an article and I'm not seeing them. The ones provided by Goldsztanjn are extremely trivial passing mentions in articles about other things and do nothing for notability. In the meantime there's zero reason to have an article for every minor state affiliate of a political party. Especially if they haven't been written about or for that matter have any notable candidates who won elections. It's not like they can't just be mentioned in the main list for state affiliates of the Libertarian Party or some other article related to it either. -- Adamant1 ( talk) 13:10, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:14, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Sources provided are extremely routine, trivial mentions such as a local newspaper noting the party gained access to the ballot. No significant, in-depth discussion of the party. No indication this state branch of a notable political party is individually notable.
AusLondonder (
talk)
15:44, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- The sources are all about the Party in the state. The state branch is notable because there is reliable source coverage of the state branch; that's how we determine notability. There are more than enough sources to adequately provide material for an article. Regards, Goldsztajn ( talk) 10:41, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep all these. Hyperbolick ( talk) 03:14, 3 April 2022 (UTC)′
- Keep per sources listed, and comments/responses made, by Goldsztajn. Passes WP:SIGCOV. Sal2100 ( talk) 20:48, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was no consensus. Randykitty ( talk) 10:06, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Libertarian Party of North Dakota
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Non-notable state branch of a notable federal party. Toa Nidhiki05 12:36, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Politics, and North Dakota. Shellwood ( talk) 12:45, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of state parties of the Libertarian Party (United States) Reywas92 Talk 13:11, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep hundreds of hits in North Dakota press over a 30+ year period, national press coverage of the state party, some SIGCOV examples. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]
References
- ^ Dura, Jack (9 Jan 2020). "ND Libertarian Party regains ballot access". Newspapers.com. The Bismarck Tribune.
- ^ Smith, Nick (28 Sep 2014). "Libertarians attempt to win three offices". Newspapers.com. The Bismarck Tribune.
- ^ "Libertarian Party ballot approval". Newspapers.com. The Bismarck Tribune. 31 Aug 2013.
- ^ "Libertarian party trying to get on N.D. ballot". Newspapers.com. The Bismarck Tribune. 11 Jul 1987.
- ^ Dura, Jack (28 Feb 2022). "North Dakota Libertarians to focus on 2024 elections". Bismarck Tribune.
- ^ Boewn, Joe (26 May 2021). "After running as a Democrat, Roland Riemers voted out of North Dakota Libertarian Party". Grand Forks Herald.
- ^ "North Dakota Libertarian Party to appear on ballot this year". AP NEWS. 8 January 2020.
- ^ Wootson Jr, Cleve R (16 October 2016). "'Make America Rape Again': A libertarian candidate's argument against 'rape culture'". Washington Post.
- ^ "Libertarians picking up momentum in ND". minotdailynews.com. 4 September 2016.
- An evident lack of
WP:BEFORE with these nominations. Regards, --
Goldsztajn (
talk)
11:03, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- @
Goldsztajn: Can I ask how you can believe that a trivial local newspaper mention about a political party gaining access to a ballot amounts to significant coverage?
AusLondonder (
talk)
15:41, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- @ AusLondonder I assume you are talking about the first article. It's an illustrated piece of about 300 words from an almost 150 year old daily newspaper that covers half the state. The entire piece covers the party and does not require original research to extract information. What's trivial? The newspaper? The issue? SIGCOV is a qualitative assessment, not quantitative, it relates to the source itself; note the words "more than a trivial mention" in SIGCOV. The article is clearly more than a trivial mention of the Party in North Dakota. Regards, Goldsztajn ( talk) 10:55, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- @
Goldsztajn: Can I ask how you can believe that a trivial local newspaper mention about a political party gaining access to a ballot amounts to significant coverage?
AusLondonder (
talk)
15:41, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete or Redirect to List of state parties of the Libertarian Party (United States) or somewhere else. I don't really care, but there needs to multiple in-depth sources that are independent of the subject justify an article and I'm not seeing them. The ones provided by Goldsztanjn are extremely trivial passing mentions in articles about other things and do nothing for notability. In the meantime there's zero reason to have an article for every minor state affiliate of a political party. Especially if they haven't been written about or for that matter have any notable candidates who won elections. It's not like they can't just be mentioned in the main list for state affiliates of the Libertarian Party or some other article related to it either. -- Adamant1 ( talk) 13:10, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:14, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Sources provided are extremely routine, trivial mentions such as a local newspaper noting the party gained access to the ballot. No significant, in-depth discussion of the party. No indication this state branch of a notable political party is individually notable.
AusLondonder (
talk)
15:44, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- The sources are all about the Party in the state. The state branch is notable because there is reliable source coverage of the state branch; that's how we determine notability. There are more than enough sources to adequately provide material for an article. Regards, Goldsztajn ( talk) 10:41, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep all these. Hyperbolick ( talk) 03:14, 3 April 2022 (UTC)′
- Keep per sources listed, and comments/responses made, by Goldsztajn. Passes WP:SIGCOV. Sal2100 ( talk) 20:48, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.