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The result was redirect to the albums the songs appears on.. North America 1000 22:57, 19 May 2016 (UTC) reply

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Know Yourself (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
No Tellin' (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
6 God (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Used To (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
6 Man (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Now & Forever (Drake song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Digital Dash (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Big Rings (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Live from the Gutter (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Diamonds Dancing (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Scholarships (Drake and Future song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Plastic Bag (Drake and Future song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I'm the Plug (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Change Locations (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Keep the Family Close (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
9 (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
U with Me? (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Feel No Ways (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hype (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Weston Road Flows (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Redemption (Drake song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
With You (Drake song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Faithful (Drake song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Still Here (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Controlla (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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Childs Play (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Too Good (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Summers Over Interlude (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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Nominating all 33 articles for deletion. All of them are non-notable Drake songs from his last three musical releases. While every song managed to chart, this no longer seems to be anything of merit, with peoples whole albums managing to chat on the Hot 100 and corresponding charts nowadays. No mentions in third-party sources. Azealia911 talk 12:40, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply

Comment: I notified Drizzy010, who created many of these articles or converted them from redirects to articles. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 12:56, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Thankyou, Jonesey95, I was planning to leave a courteous message before nominating but it completely slipped my mind. Azealia911 talk 12:58, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Redirect to their respective albums until " significant coverage in reliable sources" is available. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 13:01, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Redirect - not enough coverage to warrant individual articles. Robman94 ( talk) 14:14, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Comment: I don't mind having articles for songs that have charted. That being said, if consensus dictates these songs should not have standalone articles, we should redirect, not delete. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:58, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. /wiae  /tlk 14:59, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Redirect to the articles of whatever albums the songs are a part of. JumpiMaus ( talk) 15:27, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Comment if all these Drake songs get deleted, then I want all the songs off Beyoncé's Lemonade and Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp a Butterfly to be deleted as well. All those songs that have articles have less value than all of those Drake songs because they have charted. Drizzy010 ( talk) 15:35, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Feel free to nominate them yourself. Nobody's stopping you. Azealia911 talk 15:42, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Ohh my fault. Bad examples. You're clearly a hipster then. What I meant to say was that we should delete all of Azealia Banks songs that have articles since they have absolutely NOOOOOOOO value whatsoever. Drizzy010 ( talk) 16:33, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Drizzy010, please comment on content, not contributors. Like I said, if you feel so irritated that you want to nominate articles for deletion to 'get back' at an editor, feel free. These nominations are not to say that your hard work isn't appreciated and I can understand that 32 articles you just created from redirects all being redirected back again at once must be frustrating, but they are simply not notable. Per WP:NSONGS, while charting history is a positive factor in determining whether a song is notable enough for it's own article, it must first and foremost be mentioned in multiple, reliable third sources (outside of album reviews). This is the reason I have nominated these titles for deletion, because unless they are all fluffed up with album reviews, they will all remain stub-short articles. Azealia911 talk 16:59, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Edit: Given that Drizzy010 demanded the deletion of other articles should these 32 be redirected, which looks like it will be the case, I have looked over their suggestions and taken to nominate several non-notable songs from Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp a Butterfly album here. Azealia911 talk 20:32, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Drizzy, please don't fall into the "other stuff exists" mindset, it won't get you anywhere on Wikpedia. Don't focus on other stuff out there that may or not be appropriate for articles, focus on showing that there's sourcing and content to be said about these individual songs other than the fact that they briefly charted. These tiny stub song articles, as is, when faced under scrutiny, are almost always redirected, unless you've got some huge ideas for expansion or something... Sergecross73 msg me 18:08, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
@ Drizzy010: Several album tracks on Lemonade and To Pimp a Butterfly are notable independently from their parent albums. As someone else has mentioned, "other stuff exists" is a poor AfD rationale. Chase ( talk | contributions) 21:47, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Also @ Drizzy010: please stop emulating @ Azealia911:'s signature. Its a violation of Wikipedia policy and is borderline stalking. — IB [ Poke ] 14:47, 13 May 2016 (UTC) reply
I didn't want to sound like a diva but yes I agree, thankyou. Azealia911 talk 15:15, 13 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Lol, I think he simply doesn't know about the 4-tilda signing thing, so he copied and modified the closest sig here. I just changed the sigs back to standard sigs. Robman94 ( talk) 18:24, 13 May 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Redirect all to their respective studio albums. Giant Snowman 19:22, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete and redirect all per nom; it's good to see notability standards for music finally being taken seriously. Tpdwkouaa ( talk) 19:27, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Redirect to parent album articles; merge content where appropriate. Charting does not automatically make a song notable or suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia. WP:NSONG clearly says that factors such as charting suggest that a song or single may be notable, though a standalone article should still satisfy the aforementioned criteria of be[ing] the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the artist and label. Chase ( talk | contributions) 21:47, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Redirect since its a plausible redirect but all articles fail notability. WP:WAX applies here. — IB [ Poke ] 14:45, 13 May 2016 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to the albums the songs appears on.. North America 1000 22:57, 19 May 2016 (UTC) reply

Legend (Drake song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
10 Bands (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Know Yourself (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
No Tellin' (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
6 God (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Used To (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
6 Man (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Now & Forever (Drake song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Digital Dash (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Big Rings (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Live from the Gutter (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Diamonds Dancing (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Scholarships (Drake and Future song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Plastic Bag (Drake and Future song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I'm the Plug (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Change Locations (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Keep the Family Close (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
9 (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
U with Me? (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Feel No Ways (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hype (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Weston Road Flows (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Redemption (Drake song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
With You (Drake song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Faithful (Drake song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Still Here (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Controlla (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Grammys (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Childs Play (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Too Good (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Summers Over Interlude (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Fire & Desire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Views (song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Nominating all 33 articles for deletion. All of them are non-notable Drake songs from his last three musical releases. While every song managed to chart, this no longer seems to be anything of merit, with peoples whole albums managing to chat on the Hot 100 and corresponding charts nowadays. No mentions in third-party sources. Azealia911 talk 12:40, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply

Comment: I notified Drizzy010, who created many of these articles or converted them from redirects to articles. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 12:56, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Thankyou, Jonesey95, I was planning to leave a courteous message before nominating but it completely slipped my mind. Azealia911 talk 12:58, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Redirect to their respective albums until " significant coverage in reliable sources" is available. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 13:01, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Redirect - not enough coverage to warrant individual articles. Robman94 ( talk) 14:14, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Comment: I don't mind having articles for songs that have charted. That being said, if consensus dictates these songs should not have standalone articles, we should redirect, not delete. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:58, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. /wiae  /tlk 14:59, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Redirect to the articles of whatever albums the songs are a part of. JumpiMaus ( talk) 15:27, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Comment if all these Drake songs get deleted, then I want all the songs off Beyoncé's Lemonade and Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp a Butterfly to be deleted as well. All those songs that have articles have less value than all of those Drake songs because they have charted. Drizzy010 ( talk) 15:35, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Feel free to nominate them yourself. Nobody's stopping you. Azealia911 talk 15:42, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Ohh my fault. Bad examples. You're clearly a hipster then. What I meant to say was that we should delete all of Azealia Banks songs that have articles since they have absolutely NOOOOOOOO value whatsoever. Drizzy010 ( talk) 16:33, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Drizzy010, please comment on content, not contributors. Like I said, if you feel so irritated that you want to nominate articles for deletion to 'get back' at an editor, feel free. These nominations are not to say that your hard work isn't appreciated and I can understand that 32 articles you just created from redirects all being redirected back again at once must be frustrating, but they are simply not notable. Per WP:NSONGS, while charting history is a positive factor in determining whether a song is notable enough for it's own article, it must first and foremost be mentioned in multiple, reliable third sources (outside of album reviews). This is the reason I have nominated these titles for deletion, because unless they are all fluffed up with album reviews, they will all remain stub-short articles. Azealia911 talk 16:59, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Edit: Given that Drizzy010 demanded the deletion of other articles should these 32 be redirected, which looks like it will be the case, I have looked over their suggestions and taken to nominate several non-notable songs from Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp a Butterfly album here. Azealia911 talk 20:32, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Drizzy, please don't fall into the "other stuff exists" mindset, it won't get you anywhere on Wikpedia. Don't focus on other stuff out there that may or not be appropriate for articles, focus on showing that there's sourcing and content to be said about these individual songs other than the fact that they briefly charted. These tiny stub song articles, as is, when faced under scrutiny, are almost always redirected, unless you've got some huge ideas for expansion or something... Sergecross73 msg me 18:08, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
@ Drizzy010: Several album tracks on Lemonade and To Pimp a Butterfly are notable independently from their parent albums. As someone else has mentioned, "other stuff exists" is a poor AfD rationale. Chase ( talk | contributions) 21:47, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Also @ Drizzy010: please stop emulating @ Azealia911:'s signature. Its a violation of Wikipedia policy and is borderline stalking. — IB [ Poke ] 14:47, 13 May 2016 (UTC) reply
I didn't want to sound like a diva but yes I agree, thankyou. Azealia911 talk 15:15, 13 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Lol, I think he simply doesn't know about the 4-tilda signing thing, so he copied and modified the closest sig here. I just changed the sigs back to standard sigs. Robman94 ( talk) 18:24, 13 May 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Redirect all to their respective studio albums. Giant Snowman 19:22, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete and redirect all per nom; it's good to see notability standards for music finally being taken seriously. Tpdwkouaa ( talk) 19:27, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Redirect to parent album articles; merge content where appropriate. Charting does not automatically make a song notable or suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia. WP:NSONG clearly says that factors such as charting suggest that a song or single may be notable, though a standalone article should still satisfy the aforementioned criteria of be[ing] the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the artist and label. Chase ( talk | contributions) 21:47, 12 May 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Redirect since its a plausible redirect but all articles fail notability. WP:WAX applies here. — IB [ Poke ] 14:45, 13 May 2016 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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