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The result was delete. Sandstein 11:48, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Lau Chak-kei
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Policemen have become either heros or hate figures depending on your political viewpoint. It is an unescapable fact that this subject is notable only for one event - when he was filmed holding a shotgun in the middle of a busy protest scene during the 2019 Hong Kong protests. This is a potential attack page just like the one for Rupert Dover which was deleted as just that. While Lau has become a figure worthy of doxing to the protest movement, he was hailed in mainland propaganda as a hero and was invited to the National Day celebrations. As WP is not a platform for advertising, I nominate this article for deletion. Ohc ¡digame! 20:58, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. SharabSalam ( talk) 23:45, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletion discussions. SharabSalam ( talk) 23:45, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete I always try to avoid voting delete in a BLP article but this pretty much seems like an attack page.-- SharabSalam ( talk) 23:47, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep: Lau Chak-kei is a popular KOL in China who have more than millions followers. His comments are so influential that was being the focus of disputes in the Legislative Council several times. The page recorded what Lau Chak-kei did at the point of view from both camps and thus it contains both the positive and negative description. For those negative description, those are just factual record of what had really happened. -- Elementautumn ( talk) 00:02, 24 December 2019 (UTC) — Elementautumn ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Delete Fails
WP:GNG. There is no in-depth coverage on the person himself. Those
tabloid journalism on re-release his POV is not an in-depth coverage. He open an account in Mainland blog platform
Weblog(edit: Weibo 微博 22:23, 27 December 2019 (UTC)) is not a significant event either. All of the coverages and notability were derived from 2019 Hong Kong protests as a policeman. Matthew hk ( talk) 06:15, 24 December 2019 (UTC) - Keep Lau is popular in mainland China, but he is a controversial figure outside of mainland China. I think nominator should stand in neutral point to nominate for deletion.-- Shwangtianyuan Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 14:42, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance ( talk) 11:58, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance ( talk) 11:58, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete He deserves a mention in Wikipedia, but i don't think that he deserves his own article. Pancho507 ( talk) 13:09, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per above. A mention might be more suitable. – DarkGlow ( talk) 13:17, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:1E. Mdaniels5757 ( talk) 22:29, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Comment I support the deletion because he is not notable enough to be a page. But I suggest for a page such as the Draft:Promotion of counter-protests figure surrounding the 2019 Hong Kong protests to include people who are promoted by Chinese government and media. Promotion has been a method of propaganda at least in China. Mariogoods ( talk) 02:46, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete. Sandstein 11:48, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Lau Chak-kei
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Policemen have become either heros or hate figures depending on your political viewpoint. It is an unescapable fact that this subject is notable only for one event - when he was filmed holding a shotgun in the middle of a busy protest scene during the 2019 Hong Kong protests. This is a potential attack page just like the one for Rupert Dover which was deleted as just that. While Lau has become a figure worthy of doxing to the protest movement, he was hailed in mainland propaganda as a hero and was invited to the National Day celebrations. As WP is not a platform for advertising, I nominate this article for deletion. Ohc ¡digame! 20:58, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. SharabSalam ( talk) 23:45, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletion discussions. SharabSalam ( talk) 23:45, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete I always try to avoid voting delete in a BLP article but this pretty much seems like an attack page.-- SharabSalam ( talk) 23:47, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep: Lau Chak-kei is a popular KOL in China who have more than millions followers. His comments are so influential that was being the focus of disputes in the Legislative Council several times. The page recorded what Lau Chak-kei did at the point of view from both camps and thus it contains both the positive and negative description. For those negative description, those are just factual record of what had really happened. -- Elementautumn ( talk) 00:02, 24 December 2019 (UTC) — Elementautumn ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Delete Fails
WP:GNG. There is no in-depth coverage on the person himself. Those
tabloid journalism on re-release his POV is not an in-depth coverage. He open an account in Mainland blog platform
Weblog(edit: Weibo 微博 22:23, 27 December 2019 (UTC)) is not a significant event either. All of the coverages and notability were derived from 2019 Hong Kong protests as a policeman. Matthew hk ( talk) 06:15, 24 December 2019 (UTC) - Keep Lau is popular in mainland China, but he is a controversial figure outside of mainland China. I think nominator should stand in neutral point to nominate for deletion.-- Shwangtianyuan Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 14:42, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance ( talk) 11:58, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance ( talk) 11:58, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete He deserves a mention in Wikipedia, but i don't think that he deserves his own article. Pancho507 ( talk) 13:09, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per above. A mention might be more suitable. – DarkGlow ( talk) 13:17, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:1E. Mdaniels5757 ( talk) 22:29, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Comment I support the deletion because he is not notable enough to be a page. But I suggest for a page such as the Draft:Promotion of counter-protests figure surrounding the 2019 Hong Kong protests to include people who are promoted by Chinese government and media. Promotion has been a method of propaganda at least in China. Mariogoods ( talk) 02:46, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.