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The result was redirect to Giovanni Pellegrino. Owen× ☎ 11:23, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
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This article is very odd. It started life as what appears to be a personal essay/content fork about Italian politics (entirely sourced to La guerra civile) under the title Terrorism in Italy since 1945, then at some point someone misinterpreted the content as about the book itself and content about that book introduced and the essay stuff removed, so for the past 13 years it's been about the book, but under the original title. I tried to find sources under that title, failed for 20 minutes, realized what happened, and moved the page.
Anyway, still can't find any reviews/analysis/sources. It's probable they may exist given the language barrier and very generic title, but I couldn't find any. If sufficient sources are presented I can withdraw. As an ATD if there are no sources redirect to the author Giovanni Pellegrino. PARAKANYAA ( talk) 05:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature and Italy. PARAKANYAA ( talk) 05:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Politics, and Terrorism. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Comment article is currently a redirect. Given the vagueness of the term, and the target page being a WP:BLP, I support deleting this impractical, foreign language redirect. Dan the Animator 00:38, 9 June 2024 (UTC)- It was not a redirect when I afd'd it: this was done out of process. I'll revert that.
- It was a book he wrote. It is an acceptable redirect on that front, especially if the book is cited.
PARAKANYAA (
talk)
01:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies! I redirected it, thinking it was a PROD not an Afd (:D) I read your rationale but didn't read the rest of the tag properly, and just BLARed it all. Sorry for that..-
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank)
09:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Don't worry, it's all good.
PARAKANYAA (
talk)
09:54, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oh got it, thanks! For the restored article, the only citation is to the book itself, which doesn't help establish the notability of the book. That said, I wouldn't be opposed to a redirect called "La guerra civile (book)". Given that the phrase "la guerra civile" can mean/refer to almost anything on the page Civil War, I'll leave to other editors to rule on the chance that a reader using this redirect would be thinking of the book and not some other meaning. Cheers, Dan the Animator 15:39, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Don't worry, it's all good.
PARAKANYAA (
talk)
09:54, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies! I redirected it, thinking it was a PROD not an Afd (:D) I read your rationale but didn't read the rest of the tag properly, and just BLARed it all. Sorry for that..-
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank)
09:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Giovanni Pellegrino would be a suitable ATD (but once this discussion is finished indeed).- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Giovanni Pellegrino. The core topic is confused and SIGCOV could not be found. Jontesta ( talk) 21:19, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was redirect to Giovanni Pellegrino. Owen× ☎ 11:23, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
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- La guerra civile ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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This article is very odd. It started life as what appears to be a personal essay/content fork about Italian politics (entirely sourced to La guerra civile) under the title Terrorism in Italy since 1945, then at some point someone misinterpreted the content as about the book itself and content about that book introduced and the essay stuff removed, so for the past 13 years it's been about the book, but under the original title. I tried to find sources under that title, failed for 20 minutes, realized what happened, and moved the page.
Anyway, still can't find any reviews/analysis/sources. It's probable they may exist given the language barrier and very generic title, but I couldn't find any. If sufficient sources are presented I can withdraw. As an ATD if there are no sources redirect to the author Giovanni Pellegrino. PARAKANYAA ( talk) 05:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature and Italy. PARAKANYAA ( talk) 05:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Politics, and Terrorism. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Comment article is currently a redirect. Given the vagueness of the term, and the target page being a WP:BLP, I support deleting this impractical, foreign language redirect. Dan the Animator 00:38, 9 June 2024 (UTC)- It was not a redirect when I afd'd it: this was done out of process. I'll revert that.
- It was a book he wrote. It is an acceptable redirect on that front, especially if the book is cited.
PARAKANYAA (
talk)
01:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies! I redirected it, thinking it was a PROD not an Afd (:D) I read your rationale but didn't read the rest of the tag properly, and just BLARed it all. Sorry for that..-
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank)
09:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Don't worry, it's all good.
PARAKANYAA (
talk)
09:54, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oh got it, thanks! For the restored article, the only citation is to the book itself, which doesn't help establish the notability of the book. That said, I wouldn't be opposed to a redirect called "La guerra civile (book)". Given that the phrase "la guerra civile" can mean/refer to almost anything on the page Civil War, I'll leave to other editors to rule on the chance that a reader using this redirect would be thinking of the book and not some other meaning. Cheers, Dan the Animator 15:39, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Don't worry, it's all good.
PARAKANYAA (
talk)
09:54, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies! I redirected it, thinking it was a PROD not an Afd (:D) I read your rationale but didn't read the rest of the tag properly, and just BLARed it all. Sorry for that..-
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank)
09:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Giovanni Pellegrino would be a suitable ATD (but once this discussion is finished indeed).- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Giovanni Pellegrino. The core topic is confused and SIGCOV could not be found. Jontesta ( talk) 21:19, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.