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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 06:10, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
La Montagne family
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User:Belyny brought this to my attention. I apparently had declined a draft, but the article was added to mainspace anyway. I can't find any mention of this family. It's possible the family did run a diamond factory, but if so, it wasn't a notable one. Clarityfiend ( talk) 02:00, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Belgium. Just i yaya 09:59, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. This article is three sentences long and has no sources cited. --
Metropolitan90
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02:13, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- A little more has been added to the article, but in terms of establishing this as a notable family, I note that none of the cited sources appear to indicate that any of the three mentioned people were related to each other. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:10, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- Comment If you check the German and Dutch versions of the page, there are at least 7 or 8 sources, and apparently the family is documented in a museum somewhere in Europe. I don't know if that makes it notable, but the information and sources from the Dutch and German pages could be imported. Chagropango ( talk) 04:56, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- No, there are a couple of what first appear to be acceptable sources in both, but when you click on them, turn out to be dead.
Clarityfiend (
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05:17, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- If someone wants to use the sources cited in the German or Dutch versions, they would have to look up those sources and cite specific facts to specific citations. For example, one of the sources cited in nl:De la Montagne is cited there as "Detlev Schwennicke, European Family Tables. Detlev Schwennicke, European Family Tables." This appears to be a reference to the set Europäische Stammtafeln edited by Rev. Detlev Schwennicke, but someone is going to have to locate where the family is mentioned in one of those 29 volumes if they want to use that source. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:29, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- No, there are a couple of what first appear to be acceptable sources in both, but when you click on them, turn out to be dead.
Clarityfiend (
talk)
05:17, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. The author of the article (Philip.anno.1976) is responsable in different Wkipedias (German, Dutch and French versions) of a hoax about this family La Montagne (of which he seems a member) that he presents with fake sources linked to the House of Faucogney (became extinct in the 14th Century). When you remove everything that is a hoax (link between La Montagne family and House of Faucogney) there is only a La Montagne family working in the diamond industry in Antwerp in the 19th centurym but without any notoriety and with rigged sources which do not provide the information indicated. This international hoax is a waste of time for others. -- Belyny ( talk) 16:39, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 06:10, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
La Montagne family
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User:Belyny brought this to my attention. I apparently had declined a draft, but the article was added to mainspace anyway. I can't find any mention of this family. It's possible the family did run a diamond factory, but if so, it wasn't a notable one. Clarityfiend ( talk) 02:00, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Belgium. Just i yaya 09:59, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. This article is three sentences long and has no sources cited. --
Metropolitan90
(talk)
02:13, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- A little more has been added to the article, but in terms of establishing this as a notable family, I note that none of the cited sources appear to indicate that any of the three mentioned people were related to each other. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:10, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- Comment If you check the German and Dutch versions of the page, there are at least 7 or 8 sources, and apparently the family is documented in a museum somewhere in Europe. I don't know if that makes it notable, but the information and sources from the Dutch and German pages could be imported. Chagropango ( talk) 04:56, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- No, there are a couple of what first appear to be acceptable sources in both, but when you click on them, turn out to be dead.
Clarityfiend (
talk)
05:17, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- If someone wants to use the sources cited in the German or Dutch versions, they would have to look up those sources and cite specific facts to specific citations. For example, one of the sources cited in nl:De la Montagne is cited there as "Detlev Schwennicke, European Family Tables. Detlev Schwennicke, European Family Tables." This appears to be a reference to the set Europäische Stammtafeln edited by Rev. Detlev Schwennicke, but someone is going to have to locate where the family is mentioned in one of those 29 volumes if they want to use that source. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:29, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- No, there are a couple of what first appear to be acceptable sources in both, but when you click on them, turn out to be dead.
Clarityfiend (
talk)
05:17, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. The author of the article (Philip.anno.1976) is responsable in different Wkipedias (German, Dutch and French versions) of a hoax about this family La Montagne (of which he seems a member) that he presents with fake sources linked to the House of Faucogney (became extinct in the 14th Century). When you remove everything that is a hoax (link between La Montagne family and House of Faucogney) there is only a La Montagne family working in the diamond industry in Antwerp in the 19th centurym but without any notoriety and with rigged sources which do not provide the information indicated. This international hoax is a waste of time for others. -- Belyny ( talk) 16:39, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
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