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The result was keep. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 14:09, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
LGBT rights in the post-Soviet states
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This article is an original resource. No reliable source treats LGBT rights in the states within the territory of the former Soviet Union as a single topic. We do not have articles like LGBT rights in the post-Austro-Hungarian Empire states or LGBT rights in the post-British Empire states, or even LGBT rights in the Commonwealth of Nations states. Kpratter ( talk) 13:45, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. Kpratter ( talk) 13:45, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: Sources look fine to me to pass GNG. OTHERSTUFFEXISTS isn't a reason to keep or delete an article.
Macktheknifeau (
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17:40, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- @ Macktheknifeau none of these sources describe LGBT issues in the post-Soviet states as a whole; they only address them separately in Russia, Ukraine, etc. Kpratter ( talk) 19:05, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Discrimination, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia (country), Russia, and Ukraine. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:47, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Armenia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Moldova. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:48, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep If an article contains notable subtopics that could be split into separate articles, that seems to mean there is not a reason for deletion but possibly a split (which I personally do not favour). If the nominator thinks the subtopics are too disparate to coexist in a single article they should refer to Wikipedia:Splitting. Thincat ( talk) 04:21, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. A 30-second web search easily proves there are sources giving this topic significant coverage (e.g. [1] [2] [3] [4]), so the article meets WP:GNG. Before proposing deletion please refer to the WP:Deletion process and relevant guidelines, and cite them in the nomination. — Michael Z. 13:55, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. This is a keep because this is a legitimate topic. There are common themes across various post-Soviet states that stem from their histories within the USSR, and the Russian Empire before that, which make it logical to have an article about the post-Soviet states as a whole. That doesn't mean that the article is in great shape. What we have here is a big section on LGBT rights in the USSR and nothing more than a table summarising the rights in the post-Soviet states. I would like to see the USSR part split out and merged with the proposed new LGBT history in the Soviet Union article, if that goes ahead. The table is good but a table alone is not an article. We need some text to explain things. The sources found above should help with that. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 14:43, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 14:09, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
LGBT rights in the post-Soviet states
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- LGBT rights in the post-Soviet states ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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This article is an original resource. No reliable source treats LGBT rights in the states within the territory of the former Soviet Union as a single topic. We do not have articles like LGBT rights in the post-Austro-Hungarian Empire states or LGBT rights in the post-British Empire states, or even LGBT rights in the Commonwealth of Nations states. Kpratter ( talk) 13:45, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. Kpratter ( talk) 13:45, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: Sources look fine to me to pass GNG. OTHERSTUFFEXISTS isn't a reason to keep or delete an article.
Macktheknifeau (
talk)
17:40, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- @ Macktheknifeau none of these sources describe LGBT issues in the post-Soviet states as a whole; they only address them separately in Russia, Ukraine, etc. Kpratter ( talk) 19:05, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Discrimination, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia (country), Russia, and Ukraine. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:47, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Armenia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Moldova. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:48, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep If an article contains notable subtopics that could be split into separate articles, that seems to mean there is not a reason for deletion but possibly a split (which I personally do not favour). If the nominator thinks the subtopics are too disparate to coexist in a single article they should refer to Wikipedia:Splitting. Thincat ( talk) 04:21, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. A 30-second web search easily proves there are sources giving this topic significant coverage (e.g. [1] [2] [3] [4]), so the article meets WP:GNG. Before proposing deletion please refer to the WP:Deletion process and relevant guidelines, and cite them in the nomination. — Michael Z. 13:55, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. This is a keep because this is a legitimate topic. There are common themes across various post-Soviet states that stem from their histories within the USSR, and the Russian Empire before that, which make it logical to have an article about the post-Soviet states as a whole. That doesn't mean that the article is in great shape. What we have here is a big section on LGBT rights in the USSR and nothing more than a table summarising the rights in the post-Soviet states. I would like to see the USSR part split out and merged with the proposed new LGBT history in the Soviet Union article, if that goes ahead. The table is good but a table alone is not an article. We need some text to explain things. The sources found above should help with that. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 14:43, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
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