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The result was delete. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 23:13, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Kurt Smith
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Fails WP:GNG, WP:NGRIDIRON, and WP:NCOLLATH. NFL Draft picks are not inherently notable, and outside of a few passing mentions from a kicker competition in college and his being drafted, I have not found any significant coverage. Never played in an NFL game, and did not receive any significant honors in college. Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:07, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete Never a good sign when the first search result on a relatively specific search returns an offer to do a public records request. Couldn't find any qualifying coverage. SportingFlyer T· C 16:12, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Deleteas the article is written, it seems to fail WP:GNG. If sources can be found and provided, I'd change my position.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 16:35, 7 May 2020 (UTC)- changed to keep and please add sources found to the article.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 16:03, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Football players are one of the weak places where we have an overabundance of articles on non-notable people. Making the NFL draft is not a sign of notability. It appears at one point some editors thought it was. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:38, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep The article could use some work but I think there's enough for an article. For example [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] This is apparently the same Kurt Smith. ~ EDDY ( talk/ contribs)~ 00:47, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- With all due respect, most if not all of those are transactional/are mere blurbs/aren't really significant coverage, and the best article only talks about him in the sense that he's been drafted, which is the level of coverage expected for anyone who was drafted. If there are two or three which particularly convey notability, it would be helpful if you could identify those instead. SportingFlyer T· C 07:10, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- I tried to ignore the articles that simply mentioned he was drafted. And I can't access the Newspapers.com sources, although it seems from the preview that they would help satisfy GNG. So besides them, the top articles are this, this and this. Combined with the Newspapers.com sources, there seems to be enough for an article. ~ EDDY ( talk/ contribs)~ 18:15, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Here are clippings of the Newspapers.com articles you've added: [11], [12], [13], [14]. Two of the best three articles you list above are a transactional piece and a fantasy football guide in which Smith is ranked as the 34th-best kicker out of 34 for the 2006 season (there are 32 teams in the NFL, so Smith wasn't even considered the best fantasy kicker on his team). Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:09, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 18:16, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete He definitely fails to meet WP:NGRIDIRON or WP:NCOLLATH. The coverage I see is transactional and/or routine sports coverage. I don't believe WP:GNG is met. Papaursa ( talk) 02:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 23:13, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Kurt Smith
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Fails WP:GNG, WP:NGRIDIRON, and WP:NCOLLATH. NFL Draft picks are not inherently notable, and outside of a few passing mentions from a kicker competition in college and his being drafted, I have not found any significant coverage. Never played in an NFL game, and did not receive any significant honors in college. Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:07, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:07, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:07, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Tennessee-related deletion discussions. Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:07, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Never a good sign when the first search result on a relatively specific search returns an offer to do a public records request. Couldn't find any qualifying coverage. SportingFlyer T· C 16:12, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Deleteas the article is written, it seems to fail WP:GNG. If sources can be found and provided, I'd change my position.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 16:35, 7 May 2020 (UTC)- changed to keep and please add sources found to the article.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 16:03, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Football players are one of the weak places where we have an overabundance of articles on non-notable people. Making the NFL draft is not a sign of notability. It appears at one point some editors thought it was. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:38, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep The article could use some work but I think there's enough for an article. For example [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] This is apparently the same Kurt Smith. ~ EDDY ( talk/ contribs)~ 00:47, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- With all due respect, most if not all of those are transactional/are mere blurbs/aren't really significant coverage, and the best article only talks about him in the sense that he's been drafted, which is the level of coverage expected for anyone who was drafted. If there are two or three which particularly convey notability, it would be helpful if you could identify those instead. SportingFlyer T· C 07:10, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- I tried to ignore the articles that simply mentioned he was drafted. And I can't access the Newspapers.com sources, although it seems from the preview that they would help satisfy GNG. So besides them, the top articles are this, this and this. Combined with the Newspapers.com sources, there seems to be enough for an article. ~ EDDY ( talk/ contribs)~ 18:15, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Here are clippings of the Newspapers.com articles you've added: [11], [12], [13], [14]. Two of the best three articles you list above are a transactional piece and a fantasy football guide in which Smith is ranked as the 34th-best kicker out of 34 for the 2006 season (there are 32 teams in the NFL, so Smith wasn't even considered the best fantasy kicker on his team). Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:09, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 18:16, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 18:16, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete He definitely fails to meet WP:NGRIDIRON or WP:NCOLLATH. The coverage I see is transactional and/or routine sports coverage. I don't believe WP:GNG is met. Papaursa ( talk) 02:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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