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The result was keep. – Juliancolton | Talk 03:20, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
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Appears to be a term which may benefit being transcluded to Wiktionary. Wikipedia is not a dictionary Nördic Nightfury 14:26, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. Nördic Nightfury 14:27, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete: Poor sources and NOTADICTIONARY. KGirlTrucker81 huh? what I've been doing 15:51, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- Keep The article as written isn't very good and has some excessively close paraphrasing from one of the sources. However, a brief search shows several more academic sources that could be used to re-write this article. This is basically Zambia's equivalent to Brazil's Favelas, and there is a unique history behind these neighborhoods and how they formed. There is definitely potential here. Maybe I'll get around to working on it in the next few days, but even if I don't, the article being poorly written is not a valid deletion rational. Meanwhile, here are some sources that can/should be used to improve it. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
References
- ^ Myers, Garth (24 February 2016). Urban Environments in Africa: A Critical Analysis of Environmental Politics. Policy Press. pp. 69–73. ISBN 9781447322924. Retrieved 28 December 2016.
- ^ Ranger, Terence (1985). Peasant Consciousness and Guerilla War in Zimbabwe: A Comparative Study. University of California Press. pp. 30–31. ISBN 9780520055551. Retrieved 28 December 2016.
- ^ Loeb, Carolyn; Luescher, Andreas (9 March 2016). The Design of Frontier Spaces: Control and Ambiguity. Routledge. pp. 49–51. ISBN 9781317036074. Retrieved 28 December 2016.
- ^ Mususa, Patience (22 June 2010). "'Getting by': life on the Copperbelt after the privatisation of the Zambia Consolidated Copper Mines". Social Dynamics A journal of African studies. 36 (2): 380–394. Retrieved 28 December 2016.
- ^ Gough, Katherine (2 March 2016). Young Entrepreneurs in Sub-Saharan Africa. Routledge. pp. 67–79. ISBN 9781317548379. Retrieved 28 December 2016.
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 06:11, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Keep, per User:ONUnicorn. -- do ncr am 19:40, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
DeleteKeepor Redirect to Slum#Etymology and nomenclature and add to the list of words meaning 'Slum' because of NOTADICTIONARY. The ability to find sources that use the Zambian word for Slum seems a poor reason for a separate article.Although there are articles about the slums of various places. Usually the slums of individual cities. Gab4gab ( talk) 19:55, 31 December 2016 (UTC)- Yes, it doesn't seem to have anything near the distinct notability of, say, Favela. I'd say redirect per Gab4gab. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 23:07, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Comment I have entirely rewritten the article using the sources I mentioned above (except one that wasn't relevant and the journal article that I am working on getting access to) and a few other sources. It is no longer a dicdef. I would encourage Gab4gab and Shawn in Montreal to take a look at the revised article and reconsider their delete !votes in light of the revisions. ~ ONUnicorn( Talk| Contribs) problem solving 22:04, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Comment I'm ready to change my vote to keep given the re-write. I'd prefer a English language title such as 'Zambian slums', but that's just me. Gab4gab ( talk) 04:27, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
- Keep: Late to the party, but with the added sources I find this notable for inclusion. GauchoDude ( talk) 23:06, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
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The result was keep. – Juliancolton | Talk 03:20, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- Komboni ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Appears to be a term which may benefit being transcluded to Wiktionary. Wikipedia is not a dictionary Nördic Nightfury 14:26, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. Nördic Nightfury 14:27, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete: Poor sources and NOTADICTIONARY. KGirlTrucker81 huh? what I've been doing 15:51, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- Keep The article as written isn't very good and has some excessively close paraphrasing from one of the sources. However, a brief search shows several more academic sources that could be used to re-write this article. This is basically Zambia's equivalent to Brazil's Favelas, and there is a unique history behind these neighborhoods and how they formed. There is definitely potential here. Maybe I'll get around to working on it in the next few days, but even if I don't, the article being poorly written is not a valid deletion rational. Meanwhile, here are some sources that can/should be used to improve it. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
References
- ^ Myers, Garth (24 February 2016). Urban Environments in Africa: A Critical Analysis of Environmental Politics. Policy Press. pp. 69–73. ISBN 9781447322924. Retrieved 28 December 2016.
- ^ Ranger, Terence (1985). Peasant Consciousness and Guerilla War in Zimbabwe: A Comparative Study. University of California Press. pp. 30–31. ISBN 9780520055551. Retrieved 28 December 2016.
- ^ Loeb, Carolyn; Luescher, Andreas (9 March 2016). The Design of Frontier Spaces: Control and Ambiguity. Routledge. pp. 49–51. ISBN 9781317036074. Retrieved 28 December 2016.
- ^ Mususa, Patience (22 June 2010). "'Getting by': life on the Copperbelt after the privatisation of the Zambia Consolidated Copper Mines". Social Dynamics A journal of African studies. 36 (2): 380–394. Retrieved 28 December 2016.
- ^ Gough, Katherine (2 March 2016). Young Entrepreneurs in Sub-Saharan Africa. Routledge. pp. 67–79. ISBN 9781317548379. Retrieved 28 December 2016.
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 06:11, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Keep, per User:ONUnicorn. -- do ncr am 19:40, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
DeleteKeepor Redirect to Slum#Etymology and nomenclature and add to the list of words meaning 'Slum' because of NOTADICTIONARY. The ability to find sources that use the Zambian word for Slum seems a poor reason for a separate article.Although there are articles about the slums of various places. Usually the slums of individual cities. Gab4gab ( talk) 19:55, 31 December 2016 (UTC)- Yes, it doesn't seem to have anything near the distinct notability of, say, Favela. I'd say redirect per Gab4gab. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 23:07, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Comment I have entirely rewritten the article using the sources I mentioned above (except one that wasn't relevant and the journal article that I am working on getting access to) and a few other sources. It is no longer a dicdef. I would encourage Gab4gab and Shawn in Montreal to take a look at the revised article and reconsider their delete !votes in light of the revisions. ~ ONUnicorn( Talk| Contribs) problem solving 22:04, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Comment I'm ready to change my vote to keep given the re-write. I'd prefer a English language title such as 'Zambian slums', but that's just me. Gab4gab ( talk) 04:27, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
- Keep: Late to the party, but with the added sources I find this notable for inclusion. GauchoDude ( talk) 23:06, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.