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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Garuda3 ( talk) 17:48, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
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- Koghuzi, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Like Barenis, which I just sent to AfD, This was sent to draft for improvement, since it has zero current references. I say zero, because the single "reference" is to a map on which this place does not exist. Neither of the two external links mention the town either. Was actually approved at AfC without a single valid reference. Onel5969 TT me 14:56, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 TT me 14:56, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- Weak keep
WP:GEOLAND states "Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable".
Theroadislong (
talk)
15:10, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- And there is no sourcing to show is it a populated legally recognized place. Onel5969 TT me 15:24, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- Google maps shows it having a mosque, a stadium, a school, a police station and assorted businesses. Theroadislong ( talk) 15:31, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 15:18, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep must be keep and improve. 115.186.135.10 ( talk) 17:23, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- This place appears in censuses ( [1], [2], [3]) so seems to have legal recognition. Phil Bridger ( talk) 09:56, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Article needs improvement and for that it needs to be kept. Places are usually notable. Muneebll ( talk) 15:23, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: I notice that, since the AFD nomination was made, an additional reference was added, but to a Google search. I can't immediately find the relevant guidance, but I thought that the citation ought to be to a specific source which supports the text concerned, rather than to a vague search result which is liable to change with time? For me the Google search seemed to lead to a Facebook page, see WP:FACEBOOK. - David Biddulph ( talk) 11:32, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:GEOLAND. Rename to Koghuzi, which currently redirects to the district it's in. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 11:31, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - there still isn't a single reliable reference which shows that this place passes WP:GEOLAND. Onel5969 TT me 17:23, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: WP:GEOLAND is sufficient for notability, but evidence is needed of meeting GEOLAND, and only one !vote thus far directly addresses this need.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde ( Talk) 18:09, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Passes GEOLAND based on the sources provided by Phil Bridger showing legal recognition through government censuses. Presidentman talk · contribs ( Talkback) 22:08, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep but requires better sources. There must be some for a town. Maybe a census? Epa101 ( talk) 22:55, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep notable article. 103.255.7.3 ( talk) 15:52, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Sources provided by Phil Bridger support that WP:GEOLAND is met. MrsSnoozyTurtle 04:15, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Garuda3 ( talk) 17:48, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
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- Koghuzi, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Like Barenis, which I just sent to AfD, This was sent to draft for improvement, since it has zero current references. I say zero, because the single "reference" is to a map on which this place does not exist. Neither of the two external links mention the town either. Was actually approved at AfC without a single valid reference. Onel5969 TT me 14:56, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 TT me 14:56, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- Weak keep
WP:GEOLAND states "Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable".
Theroadislong (
talk)
15:10, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- And there is no sourcing to show is it a populated legally recognized place. Onel5969 TT me 15:24, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- Google maps shows it having a mosque, a stadium, a school, a police station and assorted businesses. Theroadislong ( talk) 15:31, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 15:18, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep must be keep and improve. 115.186.135.10 ( talk) 17:23, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- This place appears in censuses ( [1], [2], [3]) so seems to have legal recognition. Phil Bridger ( talk) 09:56, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Article needs improvement and for that it needs to be kept. Places are usually notable. Muneebll ( talk) 15:23, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: I notice that, since the AFD nomination was made, an additional reference was added, but to a Google search. I can't immediately find the relevant guidance, but I thought that the citation ought to be to a specific source which supports the text concerned, rather than to a vague search result which is liable to change with time? For me the Google search seemed to lead to a Facebook page, see WP:FACEBOOK. - David Biddulph ( talk) 11:32, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:GEOLAND. Rename to Koghuzi, which currently redirects to the district it's in. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 11:31, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - there still isn't a single reliable reference which shows that this place passes WP:GEOLAND. Onel5969 TT me 17:23, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: WP:GEOLAND is sufficient for notability, but evidence is needed of meeting GEOLAND, and only one !vote thus far directly addresses this need.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde ( Talk) 18:09, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Passes GEOLAND based on the sources provided by Phil Bridger showing legal recognition through government censuses. Presidentman talk · contribs ( Talkback) 22:08, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep but requires better sources. There must be some for a town. Maybe a census? Epa101 ( talk) 22:55, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep notable article. 103.255.7.3 ( talk) 15:52, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Sources provided by Phil Bridger support that WP:GEOLAND is met. MrsSnoozyTurtle 04:15, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.