The result was delete. The reasoning provided by JFHJr and DGG pushes the consensus to delete as they offer the most compelling and policy-based argument, even though the keep/delete votes are numerically similar. It has not been convincingly demonstrated that this individual passes WP:GNG or WP:PROF, despite the walls of text provided here by various SPA's. -Scottywong | babble _ 21:10, 27 September 2012 (UTC) reply
Subject fails WP:GNG and more importantly WP:PROF
Criteria for inclusion from WP:PROF
Support as nominator The subject in question seems to fail each of these criteria. So far there is nothing to indicate that any sources have found this subject's academic work to be notable. The fact that the subject holds multiple degrees from prestigious universities does also not confer notability unless we have RS reporting on this facet.
little green rosetta
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central scrutinizer
20:37, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
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Keep
1.) Venice Commission members are "senior academics, particularly in the fields of constitutional or international law, supreme or constitutional court judges or members of national parliaments". See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venice_Commission Klemen Jaklic also referenced there. The Venice Commission and the European Court of Human Rights are two two highest institutions of the Council of Europe. Membership in those requires mention and is one of the highest honors in academia. See membership list (Deans, former Supreme Court Judges, etc).
2.) Harvard Law School, Faculty member http://www.law.harvard.edu/academics/handbook/handbook-faculty/2011-12/2011-2012-faculty.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) 21:02, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
3.) Author of notable opinions/decisions by this leading body (The Venice Commission) on common european standards in electoral law. See eg http://www.venice.coe.int/docs/2008/CDL-AD(2008)037-e.pdf Mcsngrca ( talk) 21:08, 17 September 2012 (UTC) Mcsngrca — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
4.) Notable public figure. National TV Interviews such as http://www.rtvslo.si/odprtikop/vecerni_gost/ddr-klemen-jaklic/ Mcsngrca ( talk) 21:12, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
His work on democracy won the Harvard 2011 Mancini Prize ("best work in the field of European Law and European legal thought"). https://ces.fas.harvard.edu/#/people/profile/jaklic Mcsngrca ( talk) 21:38, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
Moreover, national TV interviews and appearances in debates are many and widespread. His appearances also widely discussed. See eg http://blog.kvarkadabra.net/2012/08/neizkoriscen-kapital-slovenije.html or see many more on the web Mcsngrca ( talk) 21:38, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
Members of the Venice Commission are no less elected than members of National Academies. In both cases an appointment is made first and, based on that appointment, a vote is taken by the body itself to either confirm or reject membership. Now you can call this either appointment or election, but the process is exactly the same. And the rank as well. There is no higher honor for a European academic in the field of constitutional law. This is well known among legal scholars. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) 22:04, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
In addition, this is a top academic society of Europe. According to point 6 of the criteria for WP:PROF ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PROF) (see above) a person who is EITHER "elected or appointed" meets this requirement. Mcsngrca ( talk) 22:09, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
You also asked for RS regarding the study on the electoral thresholds that Jaklic authored for the Venice Commission. Here you go one RS (out of several): http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/default.aspx?pageid=438&n=the-venice-commission-favors-3-5-percent-election-threshold-2010-02-16 Mcsngrca ( talk) 22:20, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
The person is explicitly named as the author of the study of the Venice Commission's official opinion on electoral thresholds in that very opinion (see p 1 of the opinion cited above under point 3.)). The report in the media then specifically refers to, and discusses the importance of, this same opinion by the Commission authored by this person. Therefore, it is this person's research (as the very author of the opinion) that has made that significant impact. Mcsngrca ( talk) 22:36, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
Besides, I gave you the example of Mancini Prize ("best work in the field of European law") that was awarded to this person by Harvard University. Cited above. An award by Harvard for the "best work in the field of European Law and Legal thought" in and of itself constitutes proof of "significant impact in [his] scholarly discipline". And the Harvard Center for European studies, where this is mentioned (cited above), is a reliable source Mcsngrca ( talk) 22:45, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
No, Harvard is a global university in its reach, student body, faculty and fields covered, and is officially ranked world's number 1 university. Any award from the top university in the world that is a global player is in and of itself considered an international award of the highest rank. Mcsngrca ( talk) 00:38, 18 September 2012 (UTC). In addition, appointment to the European Commission for Democracy Through Law (The Venice Commission) is likewise itself "a highly prestigious academic honor" at the "international level". The Commission is, again, not a national body but a Europe-wide body, actually one of the two highest bodies of the Council of Europe comprising of the most notable academics, former Supreme court judges, Deans, and the like. If this does not qualify then nothing does. Mcsngrca ( talk) 01:01, 18 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
More accurately: "The Venice Commission is composed of “independent experts who have achieved eminence through their experience in democratic institutions or by their contribution to the enhancement of law and political science” (article 2 of the revised Statute)." Mcsngrca ( talk) 17:29, 18 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
The result was delete. The reasoning provided by JFHJr and DGG pushes the consensus to delete as they offer the most compelling and policy-based argument, even though the keep/delete votes are numerically similar. It has not been convincingly demonstrated that this individual passes WP:GNG or WP:PROF, despite the walls of text provided here by various SPA's. -Scottywong | babble _ 21:10, 27 September 2012 (UTC) reply
Subject fails WP:GNG and more importantly WP:PROF
Criteria for inclusion from WP:PROF
Support as nominator The subject in question seems to fail each of these criteria. So far there is nothing to indicate that any sources have found this subject's academic work to be notable. The fact that the subject holds multiple degrees from prestigious universities does also not confer notability unless we have RS reporting on this facet.
little green rosetta
(talk)
central scrutinizer
20:37, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
reply
Keep
1.) Venice Commission members are "senior academics, particularly in the fields of constitutional or international law, supreme or constitutional court judges or members of national parliaments". See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venice_Commission Klemen Jaklic also referenced there. The Venice Commission and the European Court of Human Rights are two two highest institutions of the Council of Europe. Membership in those requires mention and is one of the highest honors in academia. See membership list (Deans, former Supreme Court Judges, etc).
2.) Harvard Law School, Faculty member http://www.law.harvard.edu/academics/handbook/handbook-faculty/2011-12/2011-2012-faculty.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) 21:02, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
3.) Author of notable opinions/decisions by this leading body (The Venice Commission) on common european standards in electoral law. See eg http://www.venice.coe.int/docs/2008/CDL-AD(2008)037-e.pdf Mcsngrca ( talk) 21:08, 17 September 2012 (UTC) Mcsngrca — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
4.) Notable public figure. National TV Interviews such as http://www.rtvslo.si/odprtikop/vecerni_gost/ddr-klemen-jaklic/ Mcsngrca ( talk) 21:12, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
His work on democracy won the Harvard 2011 Mancini Prize ("best work in the field of European Law and European legal thought"). https://ces.fas.harvard.edu/#/people/profile/jaklic Mcsngrca ( talk) 21:38, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
Moreover, national TV interviews and appearances in debates are many and widespread. His appearances also widely discussed. See eg http://blog.kvarkadabra.net/2012/08/neizkoriscen-kapital-slovenije.html or see many more on the web Mcsngrca ( talk) 21:38, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
Members of the Venice Commission are no less elected than members of National Academies. In both cases an appointment is made first and, based on that appointment, a vote is taken by the body itself to either confirm or reject membership. Now you can call this either appointment or election, but the process is exactly the same. And the rank as well. There is no higher honor for a European academic in the field of constitutional law. This is well known among legal scholars. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) 22:04, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
In addition, this is a top academic society of Europe. According to point 6 of the criteria for WP:PROF ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PROF) (see above) a person who is EITHER "elected or appointed" meets this requirement. Mcsngrca ( talk) 22:09, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
You also asked for RS regarding the study on the electoral thresholds that Jaklic authored for the Venice Commission. Here you go one RS (out of several): http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/default.aspx?pageid=438&n=the-venice-commission-favors-3-5-percent-election-threshold-2010-02-16 Mcsngrca ( talk) 22:20, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
The person is explicitly named as the author of the study of the Venice Commission's official opinion on electoral thresholds in that very opinion (see p 1 of the opinion cited above under point 3.)). The report in the media then specifically refers to, and discusses the importance of, this same opinion by the Commission authored by this person. Therefore, it is this person's research (as the very author of the opinion) that has made that significant impact. Mcsngrca ( talk) 22:36, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
Besides, I gave you the example of Mancini Prize ("best work in the field of European law") that was awarded to this person by Harvard University. Cited above. An award by Harvard for the "best work in the field of European Law and Legal thought" in and of itself constitutes proof of "significant impact in [his] scholarly discipline". And the Harvard Center for European studies, where this is mentioned (cited above), is a reliable source Mcsngrca ( talk) 22:45, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
No, Harvard is a global university in its reach, student body, faculty and fields covered, and is officially ranked world's number 1 university. Any award from the top university in the world that is a global player is in and of itself considered an international award of the highest rank. Mcsngrca ( talk) 00:38, 18 September 2012 (UTC). In addition, appointment to the European Commission for Democracy Through Law (The Venice Commission) is likewise itself "a highly prestigious academic honor" at the "international level". The Commission is, again, not a national body but a Europe-wide body, actually one of the two highest bodies of the Council of Europe comprising of the most notable academics, former Supreme court judges, Deans, and the like. If this does not qualify then nothing does. Mcsngrca ( talk) 01:01, 18 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
More accurately: "The Venice Commission is composed of “independent experts who have achieved eminence through their experience in democratic institutions or by their contribution to the enhancement of law and political science” (article 2 of the revised Statute)." Mcsngrca ( talk) 17:29, 18 September 2012 (UTC) — Mcsngrca ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply