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The result was redirect to MTV Hustle. Consensus not to retain below, but no clear favourite with regards to delete or redirect, so taking the ATD as the path of least resistance. Daniel ( talk) 22:54, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
King (rapper)
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Rapper that doesn't appear to pass WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO.Though there is some coverage of them, a lot of what I'm finding is based on appearing on MTV Hustle 2.0, which doesn't demonstrate notability based on point 2 of WP:REALITYSINGER. Hey man im josh ( talk) 12:24, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Music. Hey man im josh ( talk) 12:24, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep. I think that there is a risk here of relying on what we find through search-engine results in Britain or America or wherever English Wikipedia editors tend to be based, rather than looking at the sources in his home country of India. Search-engine results are weighted towards the country that you're in. I know that there is no current guidance on what is a reliable source of information for the Indian music industry, but most of the sources in the current Wikipedia article seem reasonable to me. Based on those sources in the current article, he seems to meet points 1, 2, 5 and 12 on WP:MUSICBIO. There seems enough for general notability (at least in India) as well. That said, the article is currently in a very strange format and needs a lot of editing to meet our usual quality standards. Epa101 ( talk) 20:26, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to MTV Hustle Looking through the current references I see nothing that pushes them over WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO criteria. Spotify charts have absolutely no value in our criteria. The majority of the references are about his time on a reality show, which is mentioned in the nomination. Unless they can prove they meet our inclusion criteria on their own should be redirected to the show's article. The other references are press releases, announcements and something that happened at one of his shows. I'm not currently seeing enough to warrant a stand alone article. McMatter ( talk)/( contrib) 20:47, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
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- Redirect to MTV Hustle: per McMatter. –– FormalDude (talk) 10:24, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete or (potentially) Redirect: Personally, I'm not a huge fan of redirecting contestants to their respective shows when they fail GNG (as King does), but I don't have a strong opinion if he is. Not suitable for mainspace, however. Why? I Ask ( talk) 00:55, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to MTV Hustle. Consensus not to retain below, but no clear favourite with regards to delete or redirect, so taking the ATD as the path of least resistance. Daniel ( talk) 22:54, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
King (rapper)
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Rapper that doesn't appear to pass WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO.Though there is some coverage of them, a lot of what I'm finding is based on appearing on MTV Hustle 2.0, which doesn't demonstrate notability based on point 2 of WP:REALITYSINGER. Hey man im josh ( talk) 12:24, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Music. Hey man im josh ( talk) 12:24, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Delhi and Uttar Pradesh. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:44, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. I think that there is a risk here of relying on what we find through search-engine results in Britain or America or wherever English Wikipedia editors tend to be based, rather than looking at the sources in his home country of India. Search-engine results are weighted towards the country that you're in. I know that there is no current guidance on what is a reliable source of information for the Indian music industry, but most of the sources in the current Wikipedia article seem reasonable to me. Based on those sources in the current article, he seems to meet points 1, 2, 5 and 12 on WP:MUSICBIO. There seems enough for general notability (at least in India) as well. That said, the article is currently in a very strange format and needs a lot of editing to meet our usual quality standards. Epa101 ( talk) 20:26, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to MTV Hustle Looking through the current references I see nothing that pushes them over WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO criteria. Spotify charts have absolutely no value in our criteria. The majority of the references are about his time on a reality show, which is mentioned in the nomination. Unless they can prove they meet our inclusion criteria on their own should be redirected to the show's article. The other references are press releases, announcements and something that happened at one of his shows. I'm not currently seeing enough to warrant a stand alone article. McMatter ( talk)/( contrib) 20:47, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 14:19, 19 December 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 17:39, 26 December 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 19:55, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to MTV Hustle: per McMatter. –– FormalDude (talk) 10:24, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete or (potentially) Redirect: Personally, I'm not a huge fan of redirecting contestants to their respective shows when they fail GNG (as King does), but I don't have a strong opinion if he is. Not suitable for mainspace, however. Why? I Ask ( talk) 00:55, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
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