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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 22:18, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
Kim, Arizona
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Let me start by saying that the assertion of a population of 125 on the part of the CAB is completely implausible. Aerials only go back to 1960, but they show a vast, almost trackless wasteland, marked only by the railroad and its paralleling highway. The topos go back further and show Kim to be a passing siding and nothing more; the closest building is a long ways off to the northwest. There is just no chance in hell that this was an "unincorporated community". Mangoe ( talk) 15:05, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
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KeepUndecided: as a formerly inhabited, named place (per USGS), this settlement passes GEOFEAT. SITH (talk) 15:40, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Your citation is merely a topo quad which has nothing more on it than a name. This area is in fact so empty that there is a huge area marked as "unsurveyed", and that area isn't filled in that I can see until the 1965 edition, and there still are no buildings marked on the quad! In fact the 1927 map only has two places names, a couple of wells, some roads, and the railroad, besides a lot of contour lines. As proof of a populated place, this simply does not cut it; I would take it as proof of an unpopulated place.
Mangoe (
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16:31, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Mangoe, fair enough, I'm swayed enough to withdraw my !vote on this one for now by your explanation. Thanks, SITH (talk) 17:23, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Your citation is merely a topo quad which has nothing more on it than a name. This area is in fact so empty that there is a huge area marked as "unsurveyed", and that area isn't filled in that I can see until the 1965 edition, and there still are no buildings marked on the quad! In fact the 1927 map only has two places names, a couple of wells, some roads, and the railroad, besides a lot of contour lines. As proof of a populated place, this simply does not cut it; I would take it as proof of an unpopulated place.
Mangoe (
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16:31, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
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- I'm gonna say Delete on this one. There's multiple sources in the article that only refer to Kim as a railroad station, and a small one at that. @ Mangoe: - I actually suspect the 125 population may be a reference to Mohawk, Arizona, as the CAB report has Mohawk in parenthesis after Kim, and one of the other sources mentions that Kim was near Mohawk. Hog Farm Bacon 19:07, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Concur with nom, no evidence it ever was anything more that a location along the railroad. I found a 1937 newspaper article that said 25 years prior, 1000 feet of track was washed-out in Kim which delayed trains to Tucson. It was probably a passing siding as stated above. MB 02:50, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to the county as a first choice per WP:ATD-R. Delete as second choice. -- Izno ( talk) 03:19, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stefka Bulgaria ( talk) 18:16, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stefka Bulgaria ( talk) 18:16, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete An examination of historic USGS topographic maps beginning with 1927 found a complete absence of any indications of structures or roads having ever been associated with Kim. I agree that it is likely an insignificant railroad siding that was never a populated place. Paul H. ( talk) 20:28, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 22:18, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
Kim, Arizona
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Let me start by saying that the assertion of a population of 125 on the part of the CAB is completely implausible. Aerials only go back to 1960, but they show a vast, almost trackless wasteland, marked only by the railroad and its paralleling highway. The topos go back further and show Kim to be a passing siding and nothing more; the closest building is a long ways off to the northwest. There is just no chance in hell that this was an "unincorporated community". Mangoe ( talk) 15:05, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
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KeepUndecided: as a formerly inhabited, named place (per USGS), this settlement passes GEOFEAT. SITH (talk) 15:40, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Your citation is merely a topo quad which has nothing more on it than a name. This area is in fact so empty that there is a huge area marked as "unsurveyed", and that area isn't filled in that I can see until the 1965 edition, and there still are no buildings marked on the quad! In fact the 1927 map only has two places names, a couple of wells, some roads, and the railroad, besides a lot of contour lines. As proof of a populated place, this simply does not cut it; I would take it as proof of an unpopulated place.
Mangoe (
talk)
16:31, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Mangoe, fair enough, I'm swayed enough to withdraw my !vote on this one for now by your explanation. Thanks, SITH (talk) 17:23, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Your citation is merely a topo quad which has nothing more on it than a name. This area is in fact so empty that there is a huge area marked as "unsurveyed", and that area isn't filled in that I can see until the 1965 edition, and there still are no buildings marked on the quad! In fact the 1927 map only has two places names, a couple of wells, some roads, and the railroad, besides a lot of contour lines. As proof of a populated place, this simply does not cut it; I would take it as proof of an unpopulated place.
Mangoe (
talk)
16:31, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:48, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:48, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- I'm gonna say Delete on this one. There's multiple sources in the article that only refer to Kim as a railroad station, and a small one at that. @ Mangoe: - I actually suspect the 125 population may be a reference to Mohawk, Arizona, as the CAB report has Mohawk in parenthesis after Kim, and one of the other sources mentions that Kim was near Mohawk. Hog Farm Bacon 19:07, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Concur with nom, no evidence it ever was anything more that a location along the railroad. I found a 1937 newspaper article that said 25 years prior, 1000 feet of track was washed-out in Kim which delayed trains to Tucson. It was probably a passing siding as stated above. MB 02:50, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to the county as a first choice per WP:ATD-R. Delete as second choice. -- Izno ( talk) 03:19, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stefka Bulgaria ( talk) 18:16, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stefka Bulgaria ( talk) 18:16, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete An examination of historic USGS topographic maps beginning with 1927 found a complete absence of any indications of structures or roads having ever been associated with Kim. I agree that it is likely an insignificant railroad siding that was never a populated place. Paul H. ( talk) 20:28, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
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