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The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:16, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Kika Karadi
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Fails WP:BASIC. References appear to just be links to blogs or advertisements for the subject's exhibitions. Nominating for deletion, or redirect to John Maus. -- Ilovetopaint ( talk) 14:34, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep Exhibition reviews in Artforum are usually a good indication of notability ( for example, [1]), and inclusion in the 2005 Venice Biennale is almost a guarantee that the subject is notable, but is not applicable to off-site projects that take place during the Biennale. Vexations ( talk) 21:39, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
- Weak Keep there are some articles but the in-depth coverage is fairly thin. Some of the activities mentioned above do portend notability though. Also, if I am not mistaken, AFD is not a forum for discussion of redirects, as that can be done on the talk page or at RFD. 198.58.175.190 ( talk) 04:26, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- Comment Artforum review is good, but to stay consistent with other decisions here it may or may not be enough in itself. I had no success verifying the 2005 Venice Biennale. The VB is such a diffuse event, with many many people putting on their own unofficial shows, I'm a little trepidatious of accepting it at face value. I also note the preponderance of COI edits in the article history, which gives me pause. AfD does sometimes end in a redirect, but I diametrically oppose a redirect to John Maus on Gender Gap principles merely because the two happen to be (or have been? [2]) married in 2017 (though have never collaborated on any work).-- Theredproject ( talk) 14:58, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- For example, I can confirm that Karadi was not the artist in the Hungarian national pavilion. That was
Balázs Kicsiny
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15:41, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- It looks like she participated in "Poles Together, Poles Apart", not what we'd typically consider the Venice Biennale itself, that would be either one of the national pavilions or the show in the Arsenale. We cannot credibly claim that she participated in the Venice Biennale. --
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16:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- Per [4] "An outdoor installation of 101 artists displayed on the wooden poles along Venice’s waterways." Per [5] "This exhibition was an official off-site project of the Venice Biennale, 51st Venice Biennial, Venice, Italy, June 12-November 12, 2005" -- Theredproject ( talk) 17:30, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- It looks like she participated in "Poles Together, Poles Apart", not what we'd typically consider the Venice Biennale itself, that would be either one of the national pavilions or the show in the Arsenale. We cannot credibly claim that she participated in the Venice Biennale. --
Vexations (
talk)
16:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- For example, I can confirm that Karadi was not the artist in the Hungarian national pavilion. That was
Balázs Kicsiny
[3] --
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talk)
15:41, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:16, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Kika Karadi
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Fails WP:BASIC. References appear to just be links to blogs or advertisements for the subject's exhibitions. Nominating for deletion, or redirect to John Maus. -- Ilovetopaint ( talk) 14:34, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep Exhibition reviews in Artforum are usually a good indication of notability ( for example, [1]), and inclusion in the 2005 Venice Biennale is almost a guarantee that the subject is notable, but is not applicable to off-site projects that take place during the Biennale. Vexations ( talk) 21:39, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
- Weak Keep there are some articles but the in-depth coverage is fairly thin. Some of the activities mentioned above do portend notability though. Also, if I am not mistaken, AFD is not a forum for discussion of redirects, as that can be done on the talk page or at RFD. 198.58.175.190 ( talk) 04:26, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- Comment Artforum review is good, but to stay consistent with other decisions here it may or may not be enough in itself. I had no success verifying the 2005 Venice Biennale. The VB is such a diffuse event, with many many people putting on their own unofficial shows, I'm a little trepidatious of accepting it at face value. I also note the preponderance of COI edits in the article history, which gives me pause. AfD does sometimes end in a redirect, but I diametrically oppose a redirect to John Maus on Gender Gap principles merely because the two happen to be (or have been? [2]) married in 2017 (though have never collaborated on any work).-- Theredproject ( talk) 14:58, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- For example, I can confirm that Karadi was not the artist in the Hungarian national pavilion. That was
Balázs Kicsiny
[3] --
Theredproject (
talk)
15:41, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- It looks like she participated in "Poles Together, Poles Apart", not what we'd typically consider the Venice Biennale itself, that would be either one of the national pavilions or the show in the Arsenale. We cannot credibly claim that she participated in the Venice Biennale. --
Vexations (
talk)
16:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- Per [4] "An outdoor installation of 101 artists displayed on the wooden poles along Venice’s waterways." Per [5] "This exhibition was an official off-site project of the Venice Biennale, 51st Venice Biennial, Venice, Italy, June 12-November 12, 2005" -- Theredproject ( talk) 17:30, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- It looks like she participated in "Poles Together, Poles Apart", not what we'd typically consider the Venice Biennale itself, that would be either one of the national pavilions or the show in the Arsenale. We cannot credibly claim that she participated in the Venice Biennale. --
Vexations (
talk)
16:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- For example, I can confirm that Karadi was not the artist in the Hungarian national pavilion. That was
Balázs Kicsiny
[3] --
Theredproject (
talk)
15:41, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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