Khais Millen
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Immediately refunded after soft deletion in 2023 but no change to address concerns in first AfD. Film writer/director who does not pass WP:GNG, WP:NCREATIVE, WP:NBIO. Most sources are [WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS]] if they mention him at all; there's an interview that's a WP:PRIMARYSOURCE and a single example of WP:SIGCOV that exhibits all the hallmarks of unreliable content of WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Not enough to pass. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 15:44, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: fairly meets
WP:DIRECTOR AND
WP:CREATIVE with at least
32 notable films directed and32 written (not mentioning the fact he produced. 2); the said films are notable creations that received independent and in-depth coverage mentioning him. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:18, 16 July 2024 (UTC)- What part of
WP:DIRECTOR are you referring to with "three notable films"? (Only two films he has been involved in even have en-wiki pages and only one of those he directed.) The only criterion I could plausibly see cited is "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work," but there's no evidence that any of his works are "significant or well-known."
Dclemens1971 (
talk)
16:23, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- I consider his debut film as director notable enough. See coverage about it online. It has no page yet on WP, true. Added 2 links to the article. Writer: my bad, I had counted Lipstick, which is a short. Even if it's only two or even if it it was only one, he would pass both SNGs because these works can be considered significant, as coverage shows. I'll leave it at that as he is a really clear pass imv.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC) (number of significant films; clarification: 3 or 4 films including 2 directed (Thala; and I count Aakashvani), 2 written (Adithattu and Thala, to which one can add again Aakashvani)); the 1st has received a significant award and is clearly significant imv).- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- What part of
WP:DIRECTOR are you referring to with "three notable films"? (Only two films he has been involved in even have en-wiki pages and only one of those he directed.) The only criterion I could plausibly see cited is "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work," but there's no evidence that any of his works are "significant or well-known."
Dclemens1971 (
talk)
16:23, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, India, and Kerala. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:19, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment on the opening assertion in the nomination: sorry but
no change to address concerns in first AfD
is an inaccurate statement.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)- Fine, no substantive change. The addition of
WP:TRIVIALMENTION citations does not address the concerns in the AfD.
Dclemens1971 (
talk)
16:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- I beg to differ. If those mentions (trivial or not) allow to verify he had an essential role in notable productions they do address the concerns, especially as one mentioned the award for Best Second film that was not mentioned before, unless I am mistaken. I remember checking them (or even adding some) myself back then. I should leave it at that that, as I had said, sorry. Thanks, anyway. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Fine, no substantive change. The addition of
WP:TRIVIALMENTION citations does not address the concerns in the AfD.
Dclemens1971 (
talk)
16:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Khais Millen
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Immediately refunded after soft deletion in 2023 but no change to address concerns in first AfD. Film writer/director who does not pass WP:GNG, WP:NCREATIVE, WP:NBIO. Most sources are [WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS]] if they mention him at all; there's an interview that's a WP:PRIMARYSOURCE and a single example of WP:SIGCOV that exhibits all the hallmarks of unreliable content of WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Not enough to pass. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 15:44, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: fairly meets
WP:DIRECTOR AND
WP:CREATIVE with at least
32 notable films directed and32 written (not mentioning the fact he produced. 2); the said films are notable creations that received independent and in-depth coverage mentioning him. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:18, 16 July 2024 (UTC)- What part of
WP:DIRECTOR are you referring to with "three notable films"? (Only two films he has been involved in even have en-wiki pages and only one of those he directed.) The only criterion I could plausibly see cited is "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work," but there's no evidence that any of his works are "significant or well-known."
Dclemens1971 (
talk)
16:23, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- I consider his debut film as director notable enough. See coverage about it online. It has no page yet on WP, true. Added 2 links to the article. Writer: my bad, I had counted Lipstick, which is a short. Even if it's only two or even if it it was only one, he would pass both SNGs because these works can be considered significant, as coverage shows. I'll leave it at that as he is a really clear pass imv.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC) (number of significant films; clarification: 3 or 4 films including 2 directed (Thala; and I count Aakashvani), 2 written (Adithattu and Thala, to which one can add again Aakashvani)); the 1st has received a significant award and is clearly significant imv).- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- What part of
WP:DIRECTOR are you referring to with "three notable films"? (Only two films he has been involved in even have en-wiki pages and only one of those he directed.) The only criterion I could plausibly see cited is "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work," but there's no evidence that any of his works are "significant or well-known."
Dclemens1971 (
talk)
16:23, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, India, and Kerala. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:19, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment on the opening assertion in the nomination: sorry but
no change to address concerns in first AfD
is an inaccurate statement.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)- Fine, no substantive change. The addition of
WP:TRIVIALMENTION citations does not address the concerns in the AfD.
Dclemens1971 (
talk)
16:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- I beg to differ. If those mentions (trivial or not) allow to verify he had an essential role in notable productions they do address the concerns, especially as one mentioned the award for Best Second film that was not mentioned before, unless I am mistaken. I remember checking them (or even adding some) myself back then. I should leave it at that that, as I had said, sorry. Thanks, anyway. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Fine, no substantive change. The addition of
WP:TRIVIALMENTION citations does not address the concerns in the AfD.
Dclemens1971 (
talk)
16:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)