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The result was speedy keep per withdrawal by nom. (non-admin closure) Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 14:47, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
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Unclear that this is a notable company. After removing some bad refs, the remaining ones are few and largely company sites or in Japanese.
RobP (
talk)
19:03, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- (Struck the above for Rp2006, per withdrawal below. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 14:47, 28 June 2019 (UTC) )
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:01, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:01, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Also, trout for the OP. Rp2006 can choose not to believe the present article's claim that
Keyence Japan is consistently listed in the Nihon Keizai Shimbun's yearly ranking of the "Top Ten Most Excellent Companies in Japan."
, but not to say as much and just say it's "unclear" if such a claim could be made is unhelpful. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 12:37, 26 June 2019 (UTC) - FTR, the above is a link to the bottom of several hundreds of results for the company's name in katakana on the Nikkei's Japanese website. Let alone other newspapers and other reliable secondary sources in Japan. Even limiting ourselves to mentions on the same paper's English site there are plenty of usable sources.
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Hijiri 88 (
聖
やや)
12:55, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
- I've messaged the nominator and request they withdraw the nomination and speedy close this discussion, per the above and below. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 04:39, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
- Also, trout for the OP. Rp2006 can choose not to believe the present article's claim that
- Keep. Keyence is a Japanese-headquartered
multinational corporation founded in 1974 with a U.S. office since 1985, thousands of employees, and multi-billions of dollars in annual sales. Qualifies under
WP:CORP and
WP:LISTED. From
Forbes business ranking website:
- #752 Forbes Global 2000 list for 2019.
- #33 Top 100 Digital Companies 2018.
- #38 World’s Most Innovative Companies List for 2018
- #752 Forbes Global 2000 list for 2019.
There are currently 150 Japanese companies in the Category:Electronics companies of Japan. Instead of the drastic step of proposing for deletion, which for a global company of this size can affect the company's reputation, possible stock value, and generate news stories about Wikipedia, I suggest it should have first been tagged per WP:ATD-T with an additional citations needed message template at the top to invite remedial editing per WP:DEL-CONTENT. I will assume WP:GOODFAITH on the part of the nominator as to the motive for this deletion proposal, but given the above notability evidence and suggestion for a new template, I respectfully would like to see the nomination withdrawn per WP:WITHDRAWN or speedy keep per WP:SPEEDYKEEP. Disclosure: I have no connection directly or indirectly to this company. Thanks, this is my opinion on this. No one has to agree with it. 5Q5| ✉ 15:35, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
- After reading the comments here I am withdrawing the deletion nomination. FYI, This company came to me attention when emplyees at my tech company received email from Keyence, requesting that I and my coworkers contact them to provide information. HR at my company warned us to not do this, saying it was spam. This led me to look at the WP article and (as mentioned), due to the poor list of citations, I believed this was a problematic article. RobP ( talk) 11:24, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
- So... you nominated the article on a well-known Japanese manufacturer for deletion because someone at your workplace told you that an email supposedly from (someone who claimed to work for?) said manufacturer was spam, and a quick glance at our article indicated it didn't have the best sourcing? That's ... I don't even know what to say. Anyway, I've taken the liberty of striking your nomination and speedy closing this AFD, since you apparently forgot to do both. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 14:47, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
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The result was speedy keep per withdrawal by nom. (non-admin closure) Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 14:47, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
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Unclear that this is a notable company. After removing some bad refs, the remaining ones are few and largely company sites or in Japanese.
RobP (
talk)
19:03, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- (Struck the above for Rp2006, per withdrawal below. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 14:47, 28 June 2019 (UTC) )
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:01, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:01, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Also, trout for the OP. Rp2006 can choose not to believe the present article's claim that
Keyence Japan is consistently listed in the Nihon Keizai Shimbun's yearly ranking of the "Top Ten Most Excellent Companies in Japan."
, but not to say as much and just say it's "unclear" if such a claim could be made is unhelpful. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 12:37, 26 June 2019 (UTC) - FTR, the above is a link to the bottom of several hundreds of results for the company's name in katakana on the Nikkei's Japanese website. Let alone other newspapers and other reliable secondary sources in Japan. Even limiting ourselves to mentions on the same paper's English site there are plenty of usable sources.
[1]
Hijiri 88 (
聖
やや)
12:55, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
- I've messaged the nominator and request they withdraw the nomination and speedy close this discussion, per the above and below. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 04:39, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
- Also, trout for the OP. Rp2006 can choose not to believe the present article's claim that
- Keep. Keyence is a Japanese-headquartered
multinational corporation founded in 1974 with a U.S. office since 1985, thousands of employees, and multi-billions of dollars in annual sales. Qualifies under
WP:CORP and
WP:LISTED. From
Forbes business ranking website:
- #752 Forbes Global 2000 list for 2019.
- #33 Top 100 Digital Companies 2018.
- #38 World’s Most Innovative Companies List for 2018
- #752 Forbes Global 2000 list for 2019.
There are currently 150 Japanese companies in the Category:Electronics companies of Japan. Instead of the drastic step of proposing for deletion, which for a global company of this size can affect the company's reputation, possible stock value, and generate news stories about Wikipedia, I suggest it should have first been tagged per WP:ATD-T with an additional citations needed message template at the top to invite remedial editing per WP:DEL-CONTENT. I will assume WP:GOODFAITH on the part of the nominator as to the motive for this deletion proposal, but given the above notability evidence and suggestion for a new template, I respectfully would like to see the nomination withdrawn per WP:WITHDRAWN or speedy keep per WP:SPEEDYKEEP. Disclosure: I have no connection directly or indirectly to this company. Thanks, this is my opinion on this. No one has to agree with it. 5Q5| ✉ 15:35, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
- After reading the comments here I am withdrawing the deletion nomination. FYI, This company came to me attention when emplyees at my tech company received email from Keyence, requesting that I and my coworkers contact them to provide information. HR at my company warned us to not do this, saying it was spam. This led me to look at the WP article and (as mentioned), due to the poor list of citations, I believed this was a problematic article. RobP ( talk) 11:24, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
- So... you nominated the article on a well-known Japanese manufacturer for deletion because someone at your workplace told you that an email supposedly from (someone who claimed to work for?) said manufacturer was spam, and a quick glance at our article indicated it didn't have the best sourcing? That's ... I don't even know what to say. Anyway, I've taken the liberty of striking your nomination and speedy closing this AFD, since you apparently forgot to do both. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 14:47, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.