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The result was keep. Clear consensus to keep. Editors need not, apparently, be reminded that AfD is not for cleanup, but perhaps it's useful to tell them that cleanup (article improvement) is certainly not forbidden: it's always a shame to see sourcing in an AfD that is not then brought into the article.
Drmies (
talk) 16:51, 29 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Fails
WP:GNG; couldn't find any article detailing the subject online. Only self published sources and social media sites.
Jamie Tubers (
talk) 23:34, 22 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete. The best source I could find for this person is
here. The rest I ran into weren't secondary reliable sources that would come close to meeting
WP:GNG. Although the source I provided is secondary and reliable, there aren't enough sources to assert that this person has significant coverage, and hence I do not believe that
WP:GNG is met.
~Oshwah~ (talk)(contribs) 23:45, 22 July 2015 (UTC)reply
COMMENT: You just gave links talking about a film which he directed and not publications about the subject of this article. According to the criteria you cited, the work (which is a film in this case) can only make him notable if it has "been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews". Is there any book written on Tempting Fate? Or maybe an independent documentary film on it? or expert analysis? weekly column in a newspaper?--
Jamie Tubers (
talk) 23:29, 28 July 2015 (UTC)reply
If you feel that Tempting Fate is not a significant or well-known work, then why are you still waiting? Take it to
WP:AfD and let see how far your argument will go! I still found
News Telegraph.
Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 06:28, 29 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep per meeting
WP:BASIC through the
multiple independent reliable sources found through diligent
WP:BEFORE and offered here to us by
Wikicology. Nominator, I believe you may be misinterpreting WP:BASIC, which tells us we need significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject and which offer more-than-trivial information about a topic being sourced. What is often overlooked is that a topic being sourced does not have to be the sole topic spoken of in a source, and significant does not mandate
"substantial" Imagine... that non-policy is a redlink... imagine that. Schmidt, Michael Q. 12:04, 29 July 2015 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Clear consensus to keep. Editors need not, apparently, be reminded that AfD is not for cleanup, but perhaps it's useful to tell them that cleanup (article improvement) is certainly not forbidden: it's always a shame to see sourcing in an AfD that is not then brought into the article.
Drmies (
talk) 16:51, 29 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Fails
WP:GNG; couldn't find any article detailing the subject online. Only self published sources and social media sites.
Jamie Tubers (
talk) 23:34, 22 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete. The best source I could find for this person is
here. The rest I ran into weren't secondary reliable sources that would come close to meeting
WP:GNG. Although the source I provided is secondary and reliable, there aren't enough sources to assert that this person has significant coverage, and hence I do not believe that
WP:GNG is met.
~Oshwah~ (talk)(contribs) 23:45, 22 July 2015 (UTC)reply
COMMENT: You just gave links talking about a film which he directed and not publications about the subject of this article. According to the criteria you cited, the work (which is a film in this case) can only make him notable if it has "been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews". Is there any book written on Tempting Fate? Or maybe an independent documentary film on it? or expert analysis? weekly column in a newspaper?--
Jamie Tubers (
talk) 23:29, 28 July 2015 (UTC)reply
If you feel that Tempting Fate is not a significant or well-known work, then why are you still waiting? Take it to
WP:AfD and let see how far your argument will go! I still found
News Telegraph.
Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 06:28, 29 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep per meeting
WP:BASIC through the
multiple independent reliable sources found through diligent
WP:BEFORE and offered here to us by
Wikicology. Nominator, I believe you may be misinterpreting WP:BASIC, which tells us we need significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject and which offer more-than-trivial information about a topic being sourced. What is often overlooked is that a topic being sourced does not have to be the sole topic spoken of in a source, and significant does not mandate
"substantial" Imagine... that non-policy is a redlink... imagine that. Schmidt, Michael Q. 12:04, 29 July 2015 (UTC)reply
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