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The result was keep. Consensus that individual doesn't need to be redirected to event via both BIO1E but also occurrence in more than one notable event. (non-admin closure) Nosebagbear ( talk) 08:31, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
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Should be a redirect to Tokyo subway sarin attack#Kenichi Hirose. Classic case of WP:BIO1E. But an editor is insistent on continuously recreating the article. So here we are. Onel5969 TT me 15:20, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. The reasons are as following:
- The WP:BIO1E said that "If the event is highly significant, and the individual's role within it is a large one, a separate article is generally appropriate." Besides, if a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list. I believe this article meets such rules. Tokyo subway sarin attack is highly significant, Hirose also plays a very important role in this event. I understand WP:OCE is not a good idea. However, participants in 9/11 such as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Mohamed Atta is even related with a featured article Jihad (song). To be honest, it's a little bit irony.
- Hirose was involved in a series of events, not only the Tokyo subway sarin attack, but also the secret assault rifles production by Aum Shinrikyo ( ja:自動小銃密造事件) and production of other weapons in Aum Shinrikyo. Please see this and this
I understand that many editors can't read articles in Japanese or Chinese, but a lack in articles/documents in English doesn't mean this article doesn't meet the notability standard. -- クオン· 翡翠·鵺鳥·十姉妹·夜啼鳥 15:29, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep User:Kuon.Haku's point regarding language barrier is a reasonable one. While it will stop us from understanding or getting as much context as possible, we should strive to include as much information in English as possible. LikeMeercats ( talk) 17:29, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka ( talk) 18:08, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
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- Keep - per WP:BIO1E and WP:GNG. BabbaQ ( talk) 19:18, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- restore redirect, WP:ONEEVENT. Unless the article is significantly expanded, topic is entirely covered in redirect target. TheLongTone ( talk) 13:14, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Involved in a series of events in Aum Shinrikyo. Significant and continuing coverage even with English sources alone. Icewhiz ( talk) 14:17, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep because his activities in the years before the subway attack are notable. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 20:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Consensus that individual doesn't need to be redirected to event via both BIO1E but also occurrence in more than one notable event. (non-admin closure) Nosebagbear ( talk) 08:31, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
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Should be a redirect to Tokyo subway sarin attack#Kenichi Hirose. Classic case of WP:BIO1E. But an editor is insistent on continuously recreating the article. So here we are. Onel5969 TT me 15:20, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. The reasons are as following:
- The WP:BIO1E said that "If the event is highly significant, and the individual's role within it is a large one, a separate article is generally appropriate." Besides, if a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list. I believe this article meets such rules. Tokyo subway sarin attack is highly significant, Hirose also plays a very important role in this event. I understand WP:OCE is not a good idea. However, participants in 9/11 such as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Mohamed Atta is even related with a featured article Jihad (song). To be honest, it's a little bit irony.
- Hirose was involved in a series of events, not only the Tokyo subway sarin attack, but also the secret assault rifles production by Aum Shinrikyo ( ja:自動小銃密造事件) and production of other weapons in Aum Shinrikyo. Please see this and this
I understand that many editors can't read articles in Japanese or Chinese, but a lack in articles/documents in English doesn't mean this article doesn't meet the notability standard. -- クオン· 翡翠·鵺鳥·十姉妹·夜啼鳥 15:29, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep User:Kuon.Haku's point regarding language barrier is a reasonable one. While it will stop us from understanding or getting as much context as possible, we should strive to include as much information in English as possible. LikeMeercats ( talk) 17:29, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka ( talk) 18:08, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka ( talk) 18:09, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - per WP:BIO1E and WP:GNG. BabbaQ ( talk) 19:18, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- restore redirect, WP:ONEEVENT. Unless the article is significantly expanded, topic is entirely covered in redirect target. TheLongTone ( talk) 13:14, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Involved in a series of events in Aum Shinrikyo. Significant and continuing coverage even with English sources alone. Icewhiz ( talk) 14:17, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep because his activities in the years before the subway attack are notable. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 20:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
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