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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:43, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
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Rationale borrowed from my previous similar AfD of Keizaburō Saeki, which itself was largely borrowed from Cckerberos (courtesy ping) at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hideki Kasai. Keizaburō Saeki, Hideki Kasai, and this currently-nominated article are all identical bot-created articles.
To quote Cckerberos: "This article is a generic stub, generated by a bot in 2007. It makes no specific claim to notability; it appears that similar stubs were created for every photographer listed in 328 Outstanding Japanese Photographers, all with the format "Name (years) is a renowned Japanese photographer" (compare the nominated article with Gen Ōtsuka, for example). Tokyo Metropolitan Museum of Photography states that the sole criteria for inclusion in the book was to have a single photograph in the museum's permanent collection at the time the book was published. That doesn't seem to meet WP:CREATIVE."
In addition to Cckerberos's excellent commentary, I'll note that I've done as thorough a WP:BEFORE check as possible for an English-speaker: Google searches of both the English and Japanese order of the English transliteration of his name, and of the Japanese name. The results for the English names were pitiful. The results for the Japanese were hardly better: for the most part they were trivial mentions in books about the history of photography. Japanese Wikipedia has no article about this person, so there are no sources to be borrowed from it.
In the absence of reliable sources, we cannot verify that this person is notable, so the article should be deleted. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 13:45, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost ( talk) 16:10, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost ( talk) 16:10, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, joe decker talk 04:29, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - Not really much here to say, other than listed as a "renowned Japanese photographer". Appreciation to the nom for using WP:BEFORE thoroughly. Unless someone can present more sources that seemingly don't exist at this point, however, there's not enough here to meet the WP:GNG. Red Phoenix talk 04:39, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Sandstein 07:43, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!
- Keitarō Iketani ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Rationale borrowed from my previous similar AfD of Keizaburō Saeki, which itself was largely borrowed from Cckerberos (courtesy ping) at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hideki Kasai. Keizaburō Saeki, Hideki Kasai, and this currently-nominated article are all identical bot-created articles.
To quote Cckerberos: "This article is a generic stub, generated by a bot in 2007. It makes no specific claim to notability; it appears that similar stubs were created for every photographer listed in 328 Outstanding Japanese Photographers, all with the format "Name (years) is a renowned Japanese photographer" (compare the nominated article with Gen Ōtsuka, for example). Tokyo Metropolitan Museum of Photography states that the sole criteria for inclusion in the book was to have a single photograph in the museum's permanent collection at the time the book was published. That doesn't seem to meet WP:CREATIVE."
In addition to Cckerberos's excellent commentary, I'll note that I've done as thorough a WP:BEFORE check as possible for an English-speaker: Google searches of both the English and Japanese order of the English transliteration of his name, and of the Japanese name. The results for the English names were pitiful. The results for the Japanese were hardly better: for the most part they were trivial mentions in books about the history of photography. Japanese Wikipedia has no article about this person, so there are no sources to be borrowed from it.
In the absence of reliable sources, we cannot verify that this person is notable, so the article should be deleted. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 13:45, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost ( talk) 16:10, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost ( talk) 16:10, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, joe decker talk 04:29, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - Not really much here to say, other than listed as a "renowned Japanese photographer". Appreciation to the nom for using WP:BEFORE thoroughly. Unless someone can present more sources that seemingly don't exist at this point, however, there's not enough here to meet the WP:GNG. Red Phoenix talk 04:39, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.