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The result was keep. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 10:18, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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Subject lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. From what I've found, most RS only mention subject in passing. Meatsgains ( talk) 03:09, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 15:15, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
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- Keep
Sources existSufficient sources exist to base an article on. I don't have access to all the sources, but AGF, I take it that Wright96, for example, is about the subject, and provides more than a passing mention. Mduvekot ( talk) 01:48, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle ( talk) 05:25, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle ( talk) 05:25, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete unless sources are included in the article, the claim that they exist is not enough to keep the article. Especially since "sources exist" in no way gaurantees that they are reliable, 3rd party secondary sources that give substantive coverage. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 03:00, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
- Johnpacklambert, sources never need to be included in the article if we are evaluating it for notability standards at AfD. We need only show that they exist at all, see WP:NEXIST. Best practice would be to add found sources to the article, or lacking the time/inclination to do so, link them in the AfD discussion. If we haven't found any sources when doing WP:BEFORE, then absolutely, we can say the article should be deleted since no RS have turned up. Am I misreading that you are assuming there are no RS or are you sure there are none? Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 17:45, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - not sure where anyone else was looking. Travels in the US and Australia produced interviews and other sources about her. JarrahTree 08:13, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep There are plenty of reliable sources (which I added to the article). In addition, searching under "Kartika Affandi" reveals more results than her full name. There are several sources in Indonesian. Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 18:36, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. sufficient sources for notability as an artist. DGG ( talk ) 01:33, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 10:18, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Kartika Affandi-Koberl ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Subject lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. From what I've found, most RS only mention subject in passing. Meatsgains ( talk) 03:09, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 15:15, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 15:15, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep
Sources existSufficient sources exist to base an article on. I don't have access to all the sources, but AGF, I take it that Wright96, for example, is about the subject, and provides more than a passing mention. Mduvekot ( talk) 01:48, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle ( talk) 05:25, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle ( talk) 05:25, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete unless sources are included in the article, the claim that they exist is not enough to keep the article. Especially since "sources exist" in no way gaurantees that they are reliable, 3rd party secondary sources that give substantive coverage. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 03:00, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
- Johnpacklambert, sources never need to be included in the article if we are evaluating it for notability standards at AfD. We need only show that they exist at all, see WP:NEXIST. Best practice would be to add found sources to the article, or lacking the time/inclination to do so, link them in the AfD discussion. If we haven't found any sources when doing WP:BEFORE, then absolutely, we can say the article should be deleted since no RS have turned up. Am I misreading that you are assuming there are no RS or are you sure there are none? Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 17:45, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - not sure where anyone else was looking. Travels in the US and Australia produced interviews and other sources about her. JarrahTree 08:13, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep There are plenty of reliable sources (which I added to the article). In addition, searching under "Kartika Affandi" reveals more results than her full name. There are several sources in Indonesian. Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 18:36, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. sufficient sources for notability as an artist. DGG ( talk ) 01:33, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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