- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Following a relist for consensus 5 days ago, the main contribution has been a source assessment table. The arguments for keep cite the article meeting GNG, which the source table demonstrates. No other contributors have offered a rebuttal, and so this table adds weight to keep arguments over delete. Overall, a clear keep consensus. (non-admin closure) MaxnaCarter ( talk) 06:41, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Karan Acharya
AfDs for this article:
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WP:BLP1E case. Hence, calling for an AfD discussion. - Hatchens ( talk) 08:56, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists and India. Hatchens ( talk) 08:56, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep clearly not WP:BLP1E, as discussed in the previous AfD, and WP:GNG is supported by the independent and reliable sources in the article. Beccaynr ( talk) 00:02, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I am leaning towards 1E. But might come back to it. Changed vote to Keep. Not a 1E because of coverage in high quality publication like Indian Express [1] that's talking about events other than the Hanuman image. Nomadicghumakkad ( talk) 16:24, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: WP:TOOSOON. Despite referencing in RS in some cases, the first three of those that I have checked fail. They are interviews with the artist, and are churnalism. Whether it is WP:BLP1E or not is open to discussion, and I think is a distraction. I tend to feel that this coverage is not for an event, but is coverage of the subject's art. That leads me to question whether it is the art that has notability or whether it is the artist. This is a fine point of balance. My thoughts are that, at this stage in the life of the art and the life of the artists the scales are tilted 51:49 in favour of the art, but that neither of these have shown sufficient notability. At present I see Acharya as failing WP:NARTIST in particular and WP:GNG regardless. I do see that they may acquire true notability in the future. Once they do we may have an article here. Until then, not. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 06:32, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Its the third time its being nominated for deletion, somehow someone lists it every time again. Where does this end? Amitized ( talk) 04:39, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete There are not enough quality sources to pass GNG. The first time this article was nominated it was deleted, so attacking nominating it multiple times when it clearly does not meet inclusion criteria makes no sense. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 16:59, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets general notability guidelines through cited references such as the Indian Express. Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 09:29, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless ( talk) 14:06, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment A source assessment table of sources from the article can help demonstrate WP:GNG/ WP:BASIC/ WP:CREATIVE notability and how more than one event is covered by the sources in the article:
Source assessment table:
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| Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| The mystery behind why Bengaluru is covered in stickers of ‘angry Hanuman’ ( Scroll.in, 2017) |  Much more than an interview, includes substantial independent content, as well as commentary from Philip Lutgendorf, Professor of Hindi and Modern Indian Studies, Girish Kumar, a taxi-driver, and Srinath, a shopkeeper who sells stickers.
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|
Per
WP:CREATIVE#3, the work is the primary subject of this article, and is well-known, e.g. "The image, vector-style, is everywhere in Bengaluru and in several other parts of Karnataka." |
✔ Yes |
| Karan Acharya, the man behind the viral Hanuman vector, wants to copyright the image ( Hindustan Times, 2018) | More than an interview, includes substantial independent content about Acharya, the sticker, and an upcoming comic book.
|
|
Per
WP:CREATIVE#3, the work is the primary subject of this article, and is well-known, e.g. the image is "raging across the Capital, after turning into a nationwide phenomenon over the last couple of years." Also includes support for WP:BASIC notability with secondary content and context about Acharya and his career. |
✔ Yes |
| Meet Karan Acharya, the Bengaluru artist whose mythological images of common people are going viral (The Indian Express, 2020) | Much more than an interview, includes substantial independent content about Acharya and his career.
|
|
Per
WP:CREATIVE#3, the collective body of work is the primary subject of this article, and is well-known, e.g. "Karan Acharya, a graphic artist from Bengaluru, has become an internet sensation after several of his digital artworks went viral on social media." The secondary content and context also supports WP:BASIC notability and demonstrates coverage for multiple events. |
✔ Yes |
| Meet Karan Acharya, the artist who was hailed by PM Modi in Mangaluru rally ( Daijiworld, 2018) | Mostly an interview, but includes independent content about career, biographical information, political reactions to the art.
|
|
value not understood Secondary content and context supports WP:BASIC notability. | ? Unknown |
| Will Shiva blues Trump Hanuman rage? ( The New Indian Express, 2017) | Includes independent content in addition to an interview
|
|
value not understood Per
WP:CREATIVE#3, the collective body of work is the primary subject of this article, and his work is well-known, e.g. "Today, almost every other vehicle, especially cabs and private vehicles, sport the half-faced orange and black coloured Hanuman stickers." Also covers more than one event, e.g. "The man behind it — artiste Karan Acharya — is now back with a blue coloured Adi Yogi Shiva sticker [...] He has designed stickers for Jallikattu and Kambala as well." Secondary content and context supports WP:BASIC notability. |
? Unknown |
| Stoic Rama after Angry Hanuman: Artist Karan Acharya reveals what he plans next ( The Financial Express, 2018) | More than an interview, includes independent content about new art, the Hanuman t-shirt, his company, Paridhi Media Works, the copyright, and popularity of the Hanuman image.
|
|
value not understood Per
WP:CREATIVE#3, the collective body of work is the primary subject of this article, and his work is well-known, e.g. "Karan’s ‘angry Hanuman’ has become so popular that even Prime Minister Narendra Modi underscored it in an election rally". Also covers more than one event by focusing on multiple works of art and future plans. Secondary content and context supports WP:BASIC notability. |
? Unknown |
| ‘Pride of Mangaluru’: PM Modi lauds artist who created viral angry Hanuman image ( The News Minute, 2018) | Includes a focus on debate/criticism of the image, as well as praise from PM Modi
|
|
Per
WP:CREATIVE#3, the work is the primary subject of this article, and is well-known, e.g. "It has been less than three years since the image was created and it has become a rage in many parts of the country including Bengaluru and New Delhi, where the image appears on the windshields of vehicles and on smartphone covers." |
✔ Yes |
| Man behind super viral Lord Hanuman poster, now comes up with PM Narendra Modi’s painting, ( The Financial Express, 2018) |
|
|
Per
WP:CREATIVE#3, the collective body of work is the primary subject of this article, and his work is well-known, e.g. describing him as "probably one of the most popular graphic artists in India". Secondary content and context about reactions to his art, career, and new work supports WP:BASIC notability, and helps demonstrate coverage for more than one event. |
✔ Yes |
| Vinay Bharadwaj to create first impression with Mundina Nildana poster ( The New Indian Express, 2019) |
|
|
value not understood An announcement of a new work, demonstrating coverage of more than one event. | ? Unknown |
| This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}. | ||||
- Other sources that could be used to expand the article include Mangaluru man’s half-done Hanuman is India’s new icon ( Bangalore Mirror, 2016), which helps further demonstrate WP:SUSTAINED coverage. Beccaynr ( talk) 15:32, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Following a relist for consensus 5 days ago, the main contribution has been a source assessment table. The arguments for keep cite the article meeting GNG, which the source table demonstrates. No other contributors have offered a rebuttal, and so this table adds weight to keep arguments over delete. Overall, a clear keep consensus. (non-admin closure) MaxnaCarter ( talk) 06:41, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Karan Acharya
AfDs for this article:
[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!
- Karan Acharya ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
WP:BLP1E case. Hence, calling for an AfD discussion. - Hatchens ( talk) 08:56, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists and India. Hatchens ( talk) 08:56, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep clearly not WP:BLP1E, as discussed in the previous AfD, and WP:GNG is supported by the independent and reliable sources in the article. Beccaynr ( talk) 00:02, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I am leaning towards 1E. But might come back to it. Changed vote to Keep. Not a 1E because of coverage in high quality publication like Indian Express [1] that's talking about events other than the Hanuman image. Nomadicghumakkad ( talk) 16:24, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: WP:TOOSOON. Despite referencing in RS in some cases, the first three of those that I have checked fail. They are interviews with the artist, and are churnalism. Whether it is WP:BLP1E or not is open to discussion, and I think is a distraction. I tend to feel that this coverage is not for an event, but is coverage of the subject's art. That leads me to question whether it is the art that has notability or whether it is the artist. This is a fine point of balance. My thoughts are that, at this stage in the life of the art and the life of the artists the scales are tilted 51:49 in favour of the art, but that neither of these have shown sufficient notability. At present I see Acharya as failing WP:NARTIST in particular and WP:GNG regardless. I do see that they may acquire true notability in the future. Once they do we may have an article here. Until then, not. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 06:32, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Its the third time its being nominated for deletion, somehow someone lists it every time again. Where does this end? Amitized ( talk) 04:39, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete There are not enough quality sources to pass GNG. The first time this article was nominated it was deleted, so attacking nominating it multiple times when it clearly does not meet inclusion criteria makes no sense. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 16:59, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets general notability guidelines through cited references such as the Indian Express. Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 09:29, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless ( talk) 14:06, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment A source assessment table of sources from the article can help demonstrate WP:GNG/ WP:BASIC/ WP:CREATIVE notability and how more than one event is covered by the sources in the article:
Source assessment table:
| ||||
| Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| The mystery behind why Bengaluru is covered in stickers of ‘angry Hanuman’ ( Scroll.in, 2017) | Much more than an interview, includes substantial independent content, as well as commentary from Philip Lutgendorf, Professor of Hindi and Modern Indian Studies, Girish Kumar, a taxi-driver, and Srinath, a shopkeeper who sells stickers.
|
|
Per
WP:CREATIVE#3, the work is the primary subject of this article, and is well-known, e.g. "The image, vector-style, is everywhere in Bengaluru and in several other parts of Karnataka." |
✔ Yes |
| Karan Acharya, the man behind the viral Hanuman vector, wants to copyright the image ( Hindustan Times, 2018) | More than an interview, includes substantial independent content about Acharya, the sticker, and an upcoming comic book.
|
|
Per
WP:CREATIVE#3, the work is the primary subject of this article, and is well-known, e.g. the image is "raging across the Capital, after turning into a nationwide phenomenon over the last couple of years." Also includes support for WP:BASIC notability with secondary content and context about Acharya and his career. |
✔ Yes |
| Meet Karan Acharya, the Bengaluru artist whose mythological images of common people are going viral (The Indian Express, 2020) | Much more than an interview, includes substantial independent content about Acharya and his career.
|
|
Per
WP:CREATIVE#3, the collective body of work is the primary subject of this article, and is well-known, e.g. "Karan Acharya, a graphic artist from Bengaluru, has become an internet sensation after several of his digital artworks went viral on social media." The secondary content and context also supports WP:BASIC notability and demonstrates coverage for multiple events. |
✔ Yes |
| Meet Karan Acharya, the artist who was hailed by PM Modi in Mangaluru rally ( Daijiworld, 2018) | Mostly an interview, but includes independent content about career, biographical information, political reactions to the art.
|
|
value not understood Secondary content and context supports WP:BASIC notability. | ? Unknown |
| Will Shiva blues Trump Hanuman rage? ( The New Indian Express, 2017) | Includes independent content in addition to an interview
|
|
value not understood Per
WP:CREATIVE#3, the collective body of work is the primary subject of this article, and his work is well-known, e.g. "Today, almost every other vehicle, especially cabs and private vehicles, sport the half-faced orange and black coloured Hanuman stickers." Also covers more than one event, e.g. "The man behind it — artiste Karan Acharya — is now back with a blue coloured Adi Yogi Shiva sticker [...] He has designed stickers for Jallikattu and Kambala as well." Secondary content and context supports WP:BASIC notability. |
? Unknown |
| Stoic Rama after Angry Hanuman: Artist Karan Acharya reveals what he plans next ( The Financial Express, 2018) | More than an interview, includes independent content about new art, the Hanuman t-shirt, his company, Paridhi Media Works, the copyright, and popularity of the Hanuman image.
|
|
value not understood Per
WP:CREATIVE#3, the collective body of work is the primary subject of this article, and his work is well-known, e.g. "Karan’s ‘angry Hanuman’ has become so popular that even Prime Minister Narendra Modi underscored it in an election rally". Also covers more than one event by focusing on multiple works of art and future plans. Secondary content and context supports WP:BASIC notability. |
? Unknown |
| ‘Pride of Mangaluru’: PM Modi lauds artist who created viral angry Hanuman image ( The News Minute, 2018) | Includes a focus on debate/criticism of the image, as well as praise from PM Modi
|
|
Per
WP:CREATIVE#3, the work is the primary subject of this article, and is well-known, e.g. "It has been less than three years since the image was created and it has become a rage in many parts of the country including Bengaluru and New Delhi, where the image appears on the windshields of vehicles and on smartphone covers." |
✔ Yes |
| Man behind super viral Lord Hanuman poster, now comes up with PM Narendra Modi’s painting, ( The Financial Express, 2018) |
|
|
Per
WP:CREATIVE#3, the collective body of work is the primary subject of this article, and his work is well-known, e.g. describing him as "probably one of the most popular graphic artists in India". Secondary content and context about reactions to his art, career, and new work supports WP:BASIC notability, and helps demonstrate coverage for more than one event. |
✔ Yes |
| Vinay Bharadwaj to create first impression with Mundina Nildana poster ( The New Indian Express, 2019) |
|
|
value not understood An announcement of a new work, demonstrating coverage of more than one event. | ? Unknown |
| This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}. | ||||
- Other sources that could be used to expand the article include Mangaluru man’s half-done Hanuman is India’s new icon ( Bangalore Mirror, 2016), which helps further demonstrate WP:SUSTAINED coverage. Beccaynr ( talk) 15:32, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.