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The result was delete. Sandstein 12:52, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
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Boilerplate rationale adapted from my previous AfDs of similar photographer articles (such as Keizaburō Saeki), which itself was largely borrowed from Cckerberos at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hideki Kasai. Keizaburō Saeki, Hideki Kasai, and this currently-nominated article are all identical bot-created articles. I have nominated several others for deletion, but have improved and de-orphaned quite a few more when sources have been available.
To quote Cckerberos: "This article is a generic stub, generated by a bot in 2007. It makes no specific claim to notability; it appears that similar stubs were created for every photographer listed in 328 Outstanding Japanese Photographers, all with the format "Name (years) is a renowned Japanese photographer" (compare the nominated article with Gen Ōtsuka, for example). Tokyo Metropolitan Museum of Photography states that the sole criteria for inclusion in the book was to have a single photograph in the museum's permanent collection at the time the book was published. That doesn't seem to meet WP:CREATIVE."
In addition to Cckerberos's excellent commentary, I'll note that I've done as thorough a WP:BEFORE check as possible for an English-speaker: Google searches of both the English and Japanese order of the English transliteration of his name. I have also checked the Japanese name. I also tried "Kōshiba Takeshita" as an alternate transliteration based on Google Translate. None of the English transliterations turned up anything of use. The Japanese characters brought up nothing of substance anywhere.
He does not appear in the reasonably thorough The History of Japanese Photography. The Japanese Wikipedia has no article about him, so there are no sources to be borrowed from it. I searched his Japanese name there and found nothing in any other article.
In the absence of reliable sources, we cannot verify that this person is notable, so the article, like many of the previous bot-generated photographers before it, should be deleted. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 09:40, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 10:58, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 10:58, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- Nine prints of his are in the Tokyo Metropolitan Museum of Photography, and he won an award in a photography biennale held in Tokyo in 1995 (so the 328 photographers book tells us, on page 194). If he were a Japanese "voice actor" of comparable notability, en:WP editors might want to create an article about him; but he's instead a non-trendy Japanese photographer, so they/we don't. Delete without prejudicing the fate of any future article about him. -- Hoary ( talk) 12:57, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- I should just ping you to these when I make them. I always value your input and expertise, no matter if you're arguing for keep or delete. I just put up Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ichirō Tanaka an hour or so ago, did you see it? ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 13:01, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Sandstein 12:52, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
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- Kōshi Takeshita ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Boilerplate rationale adapted from my previous AfDs of similar photographer articles (such as Keizaburō Saeki), which itself was largely borrowed from Cckerberos at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hideki Kasai. Keizaburō Saeki, Hideki Kasai, and this currently-nominated article are all identical bot-created articles. I have nominated several others for deletion, but have improved and de-orphaned quite a few more when sources have been available.
To quote Cckerberos: "This article is a generic stub, generated by a bot in 2007. It makes no specific claim to notability; it appears that similar stubs were created for every photographer listed in 328 Outstanding Japanese Photographers, all with the format "Name (years) is a renowned Japanese photographer" (compare the nominated article with Gen Ōtsuka, for example). Tokyo Metropolitan Museum of Photography states that the sole criteria for inclusion in the book was to have a single photograph in the museum's permanent collection at the time the book was published. That doesn't seem to meet WP:CREATIVE."
In addition to Cckerberos's excellent commentary, I'll note that I've done as thorough a WP:BEFORE check as possible for an English-speaker: Google searches of both the English and Japanese order of the English transliteration of his name. I have also checked the Japanese name. I also tried "Kōshiba Takeshita" as an alternate transliteration based on Google Translate. None of the English transliterations turned up anything of use. The Japanese characters brought up nothing of substance anywhere.
He does not appear in the reasonably thorough The History of Japanese Photography. The Japanese Wikipedia has no article about him, so there are no sources to be borrowed from it. I searched his Japanese name there and found nothing in any other article.
In the absence of reliable sources, we cannot verify that this person is notable, so the article, like many of the previous bot-generated photographers before it, should be deleted. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 09:40, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 10:58, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 10:58, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- Nine prints of his are in the Tokyo Metropolitan Museum of Photography, and he won an award in a photography biennale held in Tokyo in 1995 (so the 328 photographers book tells us, on page 194). If he were a Japanese "voice actor" of comparable notability, en:WP editors might want to create an article about him; but he's instead a non-trendy Japanese photographer, so they/we don't. Delete without prejudicing the fate of any future article about him. -- Hoary ( talk) 12:57, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- I should just ping you to these when I make them. I always value your input and expertise, no matter if you're arguing for keep or delete. I just put up Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ichirō Tanaka an hour or so ago, did you see it? ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 13:01, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.