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The result was delete. Joyous! | Talk 12:11, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
John Thomson Club
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While it exists, this topic about an unofficial list of Scottish goalkeepers, which is named after a Scottish footballer, has received no significant coverage in reliable sources. Does not meet WP:GNG. North America 1000 03:22, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete. Scottish goalkeepers and the "clean sheet" statistic exist, but the term "John Thomson Club" is made up. Complete fantasy. WP:V. Jmorrison230582 ( talk) 07:54, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
This page was added, similar to the 'Lev Yashin Club' which is for Russian goalkeepers. It is intended for the 'John Thomson Club', which is an unofficial list, to be discussed on the BBC "Off the Ball" radio programme. (Comment added by Donnie Maroot, who created the page and is brand new to Wikipedia, so apologies for any technical issues with the page. Any help/suggestions would be welcome.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donnie Maroot ( talk • contribs) 08:27, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - comment above basically says that the user in question made up this concept, confirming that it is 100% non-notable -- ChrisTheDude ( talk) 08:33, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi Chris, thanks for your comments. There would appear to be other non-official lists (for example the Serhiy Rebrov club) relating to sporting achievements which are permitted. The concept of the John Thomson Club has been discussed with the BBC, STV and other outlets to promote this further. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donnie Maroot ( talk • contribs) 19:00, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. We have List of Premier League goalkeepers with 100 or more clean sheets, so if it can be properly sourced, I assume we could have something like List of Scottish League goalkeepers with the most clean sheets. (See e.g. [1]) But the "John Thomson Club" itself seems to be just WP:MADEUP and lacks any independent reliable sourcing.
- As for the similar lists relating to various Russian football records--see Lev Yashin Club and others listed in the "see also" section of that article--someone with access to and facility with Russian football sources should take a look to see if those "club" names are actually in common use or if the articles should be renamed. But as explained at Wikipedia:Other stuff exists, the existence of those Russian lists is not an argument to use an unsourced, made-up name for a similar Scottish list. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 19:25, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Joyous! | Talk 12:11, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
John Thomson Club
- John Thomson Club ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
While it exists, this topic about an unofficial list of Scottish goalkeepers, which is named after a Scottish footballer, has received no significant coverage in reliable sources. Does not meet WP:GNG. North America 1000 03:22, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 03:23, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Scotland-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 03:23, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. Scottish goalkeepers and the "clean sheet" statistic exist, but the term "John Thomson Club" is made up. Complete fantasy. WP:V. Jmorrison230582 ( talk) 07:54, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
This page was added, similar to the 'Lev Yashin Club' which is for Russian goalkeepers. It is intended for the 'John Thomson Club', which is an unofficial list, to be discussed on the BBC "Off the Ball" radio programme. (Comment added by Donnie Maroot, who created the page and is brand new to Wikipedia, so apologies for any technical issues with the page. Any help/suggestions would be welcome.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donnie Maroot ( talk • contribs) 08:27, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - comment above basically says that the user in question made up this concept, confirming that it is 100% non-notable -- ChrisTheDude ( talk) 08:33, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi Chris, thanks for your comments. There would appear to be other non-official lists (for example the Serhiy Rebrov club) relating to sporting achievements which are permitted. The concept of the John Thomson Club has been discussed with the BBC, STV and other outlets to promote this further. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donnie Maroot ( talk • contribs) 19:00, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. We have List of Premier League goalkeepers with 100 or more clean sheets, so if it can be properly sourced, I assume we could have something like List of Scottish League goalkeepers with the most clean sheets. (See e.g. [1]) But the "John Thomson Club" itself seems to be just WP:MADEUP and lacks any independent reliable sourcing.
- As for the similar lists relating to various Russian football records--see Lev Yashin Club and others listed in the "see also" section of that article--someone with access to and facility with Russian football sources should take a look to see if those "club" names are actually in common use or if the articles should be renamed. But as explained at Wikipedia:Other stuff exists, the existence of those Russian lists is not an argument to use an unsourced, made-up name for a similar Scottish list. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 19:25, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone 10:13, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
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