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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 22:06, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
John Pappas
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Mostly autobiographical, none of the sources provided show the subject meets WP:GNG. Many/most of the assertions in the article are unsourced or not verified by the sources provided. The two Los Angeles Times articles at the bottom of the page only have passing mentions of Pappas, nothing in-depth to meet GNG. The previous AFD for John Pappas was for a separate individual, an American football player. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:01, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete. No version is free of promotional content. Every substantive edit is by, or paid for, the subject. This is spam. Guy ( help! - typo?) 22:40, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete I'm not seeing evidence of notability. Nine refs listed, but 3 of them (Nos. 2, 6 and 8) are to the same user-generated IMDB page, the AngelFire ref (No.3) is someone's personal web page, the Rotten Tomatoes ref (No. 4) is dead, the Theiapolis.com ref (No. 5) is another personal web site, the Fandango ref (No. 7) is dead, and the Backstage ref (No. 9) is not about him (it's just an almost 20-year-old review of something Pappas wrote and directed). So, two dead links, a few non reliable sources listing his work, and a passing mention. No in depth reliable independent sources about him to show notability.
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23:02, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Forgot to mention that ref No. 1 is a useless TV Guide pointer. Meters ( talk) 19:50, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. As per User:Meters. Knox490 ( talk) 04:15, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: @ John Pappas has made a comment at the help desk about this article, here ( diff), which may be of interest to contributors here. There's also the comment they left at the end of this section of their talk page. Seagull123 Φ 18:15, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - if this were 2008, I'd excuse an autobiography, but in 2020 everybody knows we are not a resume service and you don't own your Wikipedia article. FWIW, I'm not an Eagles fan, and I know a third John Pappas who isn't notable, either. Bearian ( talk) 14:48, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Wikipedia needs a much stronger policy of excising such promotional rubbish to prevent it being wrested into a promotional website. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:27, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 22:06, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
John Pappas
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Mostly autobiographical, none of the sources provided show the subject meets WP:GNG. Many/most of the assertions in the article are unsourced or not verified by the sources provided. The two Los Angeles Times articles at the bottom of the page only have passing mentions of Pappas, nothing in-depth to meet GNG. The previous AFD for John Pappas was for a separate individual, an American football player. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:01, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:01, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:01, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:01, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. No version is free of promotional content. Every substantive edit is by, or paid for, the subject. This is spam. Guy ( help! - typo?) 22:40, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete I'm not seeing evidence of notability. Nine refs listed, but 3 of them (Nos. 2, 6 and 8) are to the same user-generated IMDB page, the AngelFire ref (No.3) is someone's personal web page, the Rotten Tomatoes ref (No. 4) is dead, the Theiapolis.com ref (No. 5) is another personal web site, the Fandango ref (No. 7) is dead, and the Backstage ref (No. 9) is not about him (it's just an almost 20-year-old review of something Pappas wrote and directed). So, two dead links, a few non reliable sources listing his work, and a passing mention. No in depth reliable independent sources about him to show notability.
Meters (
talk)
23:02, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Forgot to mention that ref No. 1 is a useless TV Guide pointer. Meters ( talk) 19:50, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. As per User:Meters. Knox490 ( talk) 04:15, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: @ John Pappas has made a comment at the help desk about this article, here ( diff), which may be of interest to contributors here. There's also the comment they left at the end of this section of their talk page. Seagull123 Φ 18:15, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - if this were 2008, I'd excuse an autobiography, but in 2020 everybody knows we are not a resume service and you don't own your Wikipedia article. FWIW, I'm not an Eagles fan, and I know a third John Pappas who isn't notable, either. Bearian ( talk) 14:48, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Wikipedia needs a much stronger policy of excising such promotional rubbish to prevent it being wrested into a promotional website. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:27, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
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