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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 01:30, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
John Martin (soldier)
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John Martin was an NCO in E Company, 506th Infantry Regiment (United States) in World War II; during his military service he did not achieve rank or receive awards sufficient to meet soldier. He was discharged early because of a trick knee. After the War, he eventually became a millionaire home builder but did not achieve general notability or significant coverage. The character based on Martin appeared in eight of the ten episodes of the HBO miniseries, but the most significant act represented was actually performed by another NCO. Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 18:38, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Should be mentioned in the Band of Brothers article, but otherwise not notable for stand alone article. WP:Memorial applies. Kierzek ( talk) 19:08, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- Redirect to Band of Brothers article Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 08:18, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Being a member of Easy Company, getting mentioned in at least two reputable secondary sources, and being sufficiently well-known to be adapted as a character for Band of Brothers are all things that seem to indicate that he is notable. Inclusion of this article is maybe not essential to Wikipedia, but there is definitely room to add references, maybe even a photograph, to enhance its quality. That being said, if it gets deleted I won't be heartbroken to see it go. RexSueciae ( talk) 19:06, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete -- an unremarkable NCO. Name can be optionally redirected to Band of Brothers at editorial discretion. K.e.coffman ( talk) 20:52, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG. Getting mentioned in at least two reputable secondary sources hardly constitutes "significant coverage". Basically, notability is not inherited, in this case Band of Brothers does not grant notability to those portrayed, they have to earn it on their own. -- Bejnar ( talk) 02:58, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete He is not "well known enough to be adapted", with this type of argument we would create articles on most of the historically real characters in the film Hacksaw Ridge at least some of the people who were direct commanders over Desmond Doss. We do not have articles on anyone there except Desmond Doss, why? Because appearing in a film does not overcome the fact that everyone else involved lacks notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:20, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 01:30, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
John Martin (soldier)
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John Martin was an NCO in E Company, 506th Infantry Regiment (United States) in World War II; during his military service he did not achieve rank or receive awards sufficient to meet soldier. He was discharged early because of a trick knee. After the War, he eventually became a millionaire home builder but did not achieve general notability or significant coverage. The character based on Martin appeared in eight of the ten episodes of the HBO miniseries, but the most significant act represented was actually performed by another NCO. Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 18:38, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 18:42, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of USA-related deletion discussions. Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 18:42, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ohio-related deletion discussions. Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 18:42, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 18:42, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Should be mentioned in the Band of Brothers article, but otherwise not notable for stand alone article. WP:Memorial applies. Kierzek ( talk) 19:08, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- Redirect to Band of Brothers article Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 08:18, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Being a member of Easy Company, getting mentioned in at least two reputable secondary sources, and being sufficiently well-known to be adapted as a character for Band of Brothers are all things that seem to indicate that he is notable. Inclusion of this article is maybe not essential to Wikipedia, but there is definitely room to add references, maybe even a photograph, to enhance its quality. That being said, if it gets deleted I won't be heartbroken to see it go. RexSueciae ( talk) 19:06, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete -- an unremarkable NCO. Name can be optionally redirected to Band of Brothers at editorial discretion. K.e.coffman ( talk) 20:52, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG. Getting mentioned in at least two reputable secondary sources hardly constitutes "significant coverage". Basically, notability is not inherited, in this case Band of Brothers does not grant notability to those portrayed, they have to earn it on their own. -- Bejnar ( talk) 02:58, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete He is not "well known enough to be adapted", with this type of argument we would create articles on most of the historically real characters in the film Hacksaw Ridge at least some of the people who were direct commanders over Desmond Doss. We do not have articles on anyone there except Desmond Doss, why? Because appearing in a film does not overcome the fact that everyone else involved lacks notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:20, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
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