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The result was delete. Lord Roem ~ ( talk) 19:34, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
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I've gone back and forth with this in my mind and even slept on it, but I've decided to see what others think. I'm unable to find any substantive online sources about this place (searching is not helped by there being an incorporated John Day elsewhere in Oregon and there being a river of the same name in the area), and there's no entry for this place in the GNIS, which seemingly has entries for all recognized places in the United States. The photo in the article was clearly taken hereabouts, and there is certainly a road sign reading "John Day" there, but neither Google Maps nor the OpenSteetMap labels the place. I just question whether there are sources to justify the article's existence. Deor ( talk) 17:15, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Oregon. Shellwood ( talk) 17:36, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:GEOLAND as I don't think this area (location?) establishes notability. -- Mikeblas ( talk) 19:16, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete I also can't find any particular sources referring this place. The only official Clatsop County materials refer to a park, and obviously the river. Beyond the photo of the sign, it's not really clear that this is a distinct place. Steven Walling • talk 19:52, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete essentially all of the sources on this subject refer to the city and not the unincorporated community. Partofthemachine ( talk) 22:48, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Weak Delete I delved into a few sources. Here is a brief mention in a local arts and entertainment weekly that mentions the unincorporated community of Clatsop County John Day. However, that's a brief, uncited mention and doesn't meet WP:GNG. Lewis McArthur's Oregon Geographic Names mentions a "John Day railway station" as a place along the Clatsop County John Day River, but not a town by that name. That book should have the best explanation and research of any source. I heard years ago that the Clatsop County John Day was a small, unincorporated town until the formalization of the Postal Service required only one town in a given state to have a certain name. So it was scrubbed from official documents to avoid confusion. However, I can't find a source for that. This might be the name of the region around the river or the name of a former railway station, but I can't find any evidence that it was ever a bona fide town or community. I would change my vote with better evidence, though.
- Delete per WP:GEOLAND. If sources emerged giving notability, then maybe a redirect. Sativa Inflorescence ( talk) 14:43, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Lord Roem ~ ( talk) 19:34, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
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- John Day, Clatsop County, Oregon ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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I've gone back and forth with this in my mind and even slept on it, but I've decided to see what others think. I'm unable to find any substantive online sources about this place (searching is not helped by there being an incorporated John Day elsewhere in Oregon and there being a river of the same name in the area), and there's no entry for this place in the GNIS, which seemingly has entries for all recognized places in the United States. The photo in the article was clearly taken hereabouts, and there is certainly a road sign reading "John Day" there, but neither Google Maps nor the OpenSteetMap labels the place. I just question whether there are sources to justify the article's existence. Deor ( talk) 17:15, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Oregon. Shellwood ( talk) 17:36, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:GEOLAND as I don't think this area (location?) establishes notability. -- Mikeblas ( talk) 19:16, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete I also can't find any particular sources referring this place. The only official Clatsop County materials refer to a park, and obviously the river. Beyond the photo of the sign, it's not really clear that this is a distinct place. Steven Walling • talk 19:52, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete essentially all of the sources on this subject refer to the city and not the unincorporated community. Partofthemachine ( talk) 22:48, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Weak Delete I delved into a few sources. Here is a brief mention in a local arts and entertainment weekly that mentions the unincorporated community of Clatsop County John Day. However, that's a brief, uncited mention and doesn't meet WP:GNG. Lewis McArthur's Oregon Geographic Names mentions a "John Day railway station" as a place along the Clatsop County John Day River, but not a town by that name. That book should have the best explanation and research of any source. I heard years ago that the Clatsop County John Day was a small, unincorporated town until the formalization of the Postal Service required only one town in a given state to have a certain name. So it was scrubbed from official documents to avoid confusion. However, I can't find a source for that. This might be the name of the region around the river or the name of a former railway station, but I can't find any evidence that it was ever a bona fide town or community. I would change my vote with better evidence, though.
- Delete per WP:GEOLAND. If sources emerged giving notability, then maybe a redirect. Sativa Inflorescence ( talk) 14:43, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
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