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Does not meet
WP:NMUSIC. Has been tagged since 2009. Although a member of the Chicago Symphony, there is little independent coverage.
MB 04:55, 27 January 2017 (UTC)reply
This is a press-release to advertise a performance. It is not independent nor reliable. The source does not say he "founded" the NYNEM, but was a "founding member" of the NYNEM. If this is true, it is not mentioned at the
New York New Music Ensemble, which itself is unreferenced and probably not notable anyway. I don't believe he won a Grammy because there is no other coverage of this and he is not listed in the Grammy database
[1]. Volume of recordings alone not significant per
WP:NMUSIC.
MB 14:53, 27 January 2017 (UTC)reply
MB, the
New York New Music Ensemble is a very well-known ensemble with multiple reviews in the New York Times[2], and have commissioned and premiered many new works. The fact that its WP article is lousy is immaterial. And yes, the ensemble which he founded and is the Director of did win a Grammy. See the reference below provided and my comments.
Voceditenore (
talk) 15:00, 9 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep Assistant principal clarinet wih the Chicago Symphony, satisfies
WP:BIO and
WP:N with multiple instances of significant coverage in reliable and independent sources such as
Chicago TribuneEdison (
talk) 01:59, 28 January 2017 (UTC)reply
This Chicago Tribune article does not appear at all to be significant coverage of Yeh. Where he is mentioned, it is mostly quotes of him talking about others. The story is not about Yeh at all, although it does provide a few facts about him.
MB 02:36, 28 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Kurykh (
talk) 00:52, 4 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete - the only reference is a press release. There is no showing of notability.--
Rpclod (
talk) 17:15, 4 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment. He was the director of Chicago Pro Musica, which did win the 1985 Grammy for Best New Classical Artist,
[3] for what that's worth.
Clarityfiend (
talk) 10:28, 5 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep There are many reviews singling out his performances in the
Washington Post,
Chicago Tribune, etc.
[4]. Most are behind a paywall at
HighBeam. However, I have a subscription and amongst others also found a lengthy 1993 feature article devoted to him in the
Chicago Sun-Times[5]. Add to this his recordings as a soloist on
Cedille Records,
Newport Classic,
Koch International Classics, etc., being the Director of an ensemble (Chicago Pro Musica) that won a Grammy, and principal clarinetist of a major symphony orchestra, he passes several criteria of
WP:MUSICBIO.
Voceditenore (
talk) 11:57, 9 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Update I have now expanded and referenced this article to multiple sources, including reviews of his recordings.
MB and
Rpclod, did either of you observe
WP:BEFORE before opining "delete" simply on the basis of what was in the article. There are multiple links at the top of this AfD, and it's quite clear that they were not consulted in any kind of depth.
Voceditenore (
talk) 15:08, 9 February 2017 (UTC)reply
WP:BEFORE applies by its very terms to nomination, not !vote. However, I still do not find adequate support for notability and do not appreciate condescending responses.--
Rpclod (
talk) 15:16, 9 February 2017 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
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Does not meet
WP:NMUSIC. Has been tagged since 2009. Although a member of the Chicago Symphony, there is little independent coverage.
MB 04:55, 27 January 2017 (UTC)reply
This is a press-release to advertise a performance. It is not independent nor reliable. The source does not say he "founded" the NYNEM, but was a "founding member" of the NYNEM. If this is true, it is not mentioned at the
New York New Music Ensemble, which itself is unreferenced and probably not notable anyway. I don't believe he won a Grammy because there is no other coverage of this and he is not listed in the Grammy database
[1]. Volume of recordings alone not significant per
WP:NMUSIC.
MB 14:53, 27 January 2017 (UTC)reply
MB, the
New York New Music Ensemble is a very well-known ensemble with multiple reviews in the New York Times[2], and have commissioned and premiered many new works. The fact that its WP article is lousy is immaterial. And yes, the ensemble which he founded and is the Director of did win a Grammy. See the reference below provided and my comments.
Voceditenore (
talk) 15:00, 9 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep Assistant principal clarinet wih the Chicago Symphony, satisfies
WP:BIO and
WP:N with multiple instances of significant coverage in reliable and independent sources such as
Chicago TribuneEdison (
talk) 01:59, 28 January 2017 (UTC)reply
This Chicago Tribune article does not appear at all to be significant coverage of Yeh. Where he is mentioned, it is mostly quotes of him talking about others. The story is not about Yeh at all, although it does provide a few facts about him.
MB 02:36, 28 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Kurykh (
talk) 00:52, 4 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete - the only reference is a press release. There is no showing of notability.--
Rpclod (
talk) 17:15, 4 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment. He was the director of Chicago Pro Musica, which did win the 1985 Grammy for Best New Classical Artist,
[3] for what that's worth.
Clarityfiend (
talk) 10:28, 5 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep There are many reviews singling out his performances in the
Washington Post,
Chicago Tribune, etc.
[4]. Most are behind a paywall at
HighBeam. However, I have a subscription and amongst others also found a lengthy 1993 feature article devoted to him in the
Chicago Sun-Times[5]. Add to this his recordings as a soloist on
Cedille Records,
Newport Classic,
Koch International Classics, etc., being the Director of an ensemble (Chicago Pro Musica) that won a Grammy, and principal clarinetist of a major symphony orchestra, he passes several criteria of
WP:MUSICBIO.
Voceditenore (
talk) 11:57, 9 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Update I have now expanded and referenced this article to multiple sources, including reviews of his recordings.
MB and
Rpclod, did either of you observe
WP:BEFORE before opining "delete" simply on the basis of what was in the article. There are multiple links at the top of this AfD, and it's quite clear that they were not consulted in any kind of depth.
Voceditenore (
talk) 15:08, 9 February 2017 (UTC)reply
WP:BEFORE applies by its very terms to nomination, not !vote. However, I still do not find adequate support for notability and do not appreciate condescending responses.--
Rpclod (
talk) 15:16, 9 February 2017 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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