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The result was delete. j⚛e decker talk 22:11, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
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one primary source fails WP:GNG & WP:CORP. (2 SPA editors incl creator, looks like COI spam) . Even if passed GNG, what's this notable for? Widefox; talk 01:33, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
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- Comment - this article has been moved to Jiwa (Software). Dialectric ( talk) 04:32, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, a highly inappropriate move as there's an open move request, and this AfD. I objected to the move (by one of the two COI editors) and reverted it. Widefox; talk 10:10, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete: I found one piece of brief coverage from 2004 of another software item integrating with this package, and it is mentioned in a sector list in Bookkeeping for Dummies. These provide independent basic verification, but do not indicate attained encyclopaedic notability. AllyD ( talk) 06:28, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - I wrote the article initially and took care to be factual to avoid COI issues. The lack of notability issue I contest as the article is about a product no less notable than competing products which do have wikipedia articles. Informing the public is an objective of Wikipedia, yes? I think it appropriate then that informing the public of alternate products in the Accounting Software and ERP categories includes the product Jiwa and the publisher, Jiwa Financials. Mikesheen ( talk) 09:33, 22 October 2014 (UTC)— Mikesheen ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- WP:OTHERSTUFF isn't a strong argument. As you have a COI, I'm not even going to ask which ones and delete them. Widefox; talk 10:07, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- Keep WP:PRODUCT Numerous independent references around the web including software catalogues and independent forums. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scottpearce1976 ( talk • contribs) 00:06, 23 October 2014 (UTC) — Scottpearce1976 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Product catalogues and forum postings fall short of being reliable sources to demonstrate notability. AllyD ( talk) 07:03, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
- Which sources? Do you have two that meet WP:RS ? Widefox; talk 10:14, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
- Comment The two COI editors - please be aware of WP:MEAT. This is not a vote here, and having two COI / SPA !voters should be taken into account in closing. Widefox; talk 10:26, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete, I've found no mention of the software when doing a search for the words Jiwa and accounting in Trove's archived Australian websites, The Internet Archive, and Google News. I found one potential newspaper article] from The Australian in 1998, but that just says that it exists... Unless the original author(s) can demonstrate independent reliable sources it should be deleted. Witty lama 20:00, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
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The result was delete. j⚛e decker talk 22:11, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
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one primary source fails WP:GNG & WP:CORP. (2 SPA editors incl creator, looks like COI spam) . Even if passed GNG, what's this notable for? Widefox; talk 01:33, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
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- Comment - this article has been moved to Jiwa (Software). Dialectric ( talk) 04:32, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, a highly inappropriate move as there's an open move request, and this AfD. I objected to the move (by one of the two COI editors) and reverted it. Widefox; talk 10:10, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete: I found one piece of brief coverage from 2004 of another software item integrating with this package, and it is mentioned in a sector list in Bookkeeping for Dummies. These provide independent basic verification, but do not indicate attained encyclopaedic notability. AllyD ( talk) 06:28, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - I wrote the article initially and took care to be factual to avoid COI issues. The lack of notability issue I contest as the article is about a product no less notable than competing products which do have wikipedia articles. Informing the public is an objective of Wikipedia, yes? I think it appropriate then that informing the public of alternate products in the Accounting Software and ERP categories includes the product Jiwa and the publisher, Jiwa Financials. Mikesheen ( talk) 09:33, 22 October 2014 (UTC)— Mikesheen ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- WP:OTHERSTUFF isn't a strong argument. As you have a COI, I'm not even going to ask which ones and delete them. Widefox; talk 10:07, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- Keep WP:PRODUCT Numerous independent references around the web including software catalogues and independent forums. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scottpearce1976 ( talk • contribs) 00:06, 23 October 2014 (UTC) — Scottpearce1976 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Product catalogues and forum postings fall short of being reliable sources to demonstrate notability. AllyD ( talk) 07:03, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
- Which sources? Do you have two that meet WP:RS ? Widefox; talk 10:14, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
- Comment The two COI editors - please be aware of WP:MEAT. This is not a vote here, and having two COI / SPA !voters should be taken into account in closing. Widefox; talk 10:26, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete, I've found no mention of the software when doing a search for the words Jiwa and accounting in Trove's archived Australian websites, The Internet Archive, and Google News. I found one potential newspaper article] from The Australian in 1998, but that just says that it exists... Unless the original author(s) can demonstrate independent reliable sources it should be deleted. Witty lama 20:00, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
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