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The result was delete and redirect to Rappin' for Jesus. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 00:38, 22 June 2019 (UTC) reply

Jim Colerick

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I debated speedy-ing this as a hoax, but I'm not sure it's quite as simple as a 'blatant hoax'. Jim Colerick is indeed the claimed pastor who appears in the video, but a) he almost certainly wouldn't be notable in his own right, and I'd have argued for a redirect b) however, it turns out that several sources [1] (see the Rappin' for Jesus article) suggest that the video was fake and Jim Colerick doesn't even exist.

Given that, I'm not sure even a redirect is really appropriate so I'm arguing for deletion. Hugsyrup ( talk) 15:28, 14 June 2019 (UTC) reply

  • Redirect to Rappin' for Jesus is still the best option imo, though I get Hugsyrup's argument for deletion. Whether Jim Colerick is a real person or not, the fact is that this name remains a plausible search term and doubts about his existence are explained in the Rappin' for Jesus article. Deletion is my second favorite option. Pichpich ( talk) 21:20, 14 June 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Clearly fails WP:GNG, though I would have started the deletion process with a WP:BLP PROD. Jmertel23 ( talk)
  • Delete and then sure we can redirect. This is a huge BLP violation. It is as Hugsyrup Pichpich notes a legitimate alternative search term but we need to delete this page full of potentially damaging material which should not be a part of the viewable history of any live article. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 02:42, 15 June 2019 (UTC) reply
I'm also ok with that solution. Pichpich ( talk) 02:56, 15 June 2019 (UTC) reply
Great. Sorry for attibuting to Hugs what you had said. I've edited above. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 16:58, 15 June 2019 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete and redirect to Rappin' for Jesus. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 00:38, 22 June 2019 (UTC) reply

Jim Colerick

Jim Colerick (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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I debated speedy-ing this as a hoax, but I'm not sure it's quite as simple as a 'blatant hoax'. Jim Colerick is indeed the claimed pastor who appears in the video, but a) he almost certainly wouldn't be notable in his own right, and I'd have argued for a redirect b) however, it turns out that several sources [1] (see the Rappin' for Jesus article) suggest that the video was fake and Jim Colerick doesn't even exist.

Given that, I'm not sure even a redirect is really appropriate so I'm arguing for deletion. Hugsyrup ( talk) 15:28, 14 June 2019 (UTC) reply

  • Redirect to Rappin' for Jesus is still the best option imo, though I get Hugsyrup's argument for deletion. Whether Jim Colerick is a real person or not, the fact is that this name remains a plausible search term and doubts about his existence are explained in the Rappin' for Jesus article. Deletion is my second favorite option. Pichpich ( talk) 21:20, 14 June 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Clearly fails WP:GNG, though I would have started the deletion process with a WP:BLP PROD. Jmertel23 ( talk)
  • Delete and then sure we can redirect. This is a huge BLP violation. It is as Hugsyrup Pichpich notes a legitimate alternative search term but we need to delete this page full of potentially damaging material which should not be a part of the viewable history of any live article. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 02:42, 15 June 2019 (UTC) reply
I'm also ok with that solution. Pichpich ( talk) 02:56, 15 June 2019 (UTC) reply
Great. Sorry for attibuting to Hugs what you had said. I've edited above. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 16:58, 15 June 2019 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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