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The result was keep. Withdrawn unopposed. -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 15:43, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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I don't think Janet passes
WP:GNG for
WP:BLP.
Nicnote •
ask me a question •
contributions 21:10, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
As per comments below rescind nomination for AfD. Best,
Nicnote •
ask me a question •
contributions 00:03, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets
Notability for creative professional criteria. Exhibition section of article demonstrates she is a notable artist. (revised vote based on User:Freshacconci feedback).
Knox490 (
talk)
- "up and coming artist"? Knox490, did you read the article? She's in the National Gallery of Canada permanent collection and has had a retrospective exhibition. She was born in 1963 and has had a significant exhibition record with sources. freshacconci (✉) 11:56, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. I will take a second look at this. I am open to changing my vote of delete to keep. Will reevaluate today. Knox490 ( talk) 12:10, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Morton meets the notability criteria for artists, WP:ARTIST, specifically item 4d (is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums). The National Gallery of Canada is unquestionably notable, and having work in their collection is a major milestone in a Canadian artist's career. There is hardly anything more notable than that. A survey exhibition at the Museum London is also a major factor in establishing notability. I understand that the creator of this article has been blocked because they choose a name that does not comply with Wikipedia:Username_policy#Usernames_implying_shared_use. Their choice of name also raises the suspicion that they have a conflict of interest. I'd like to point out two things: 1) new users are not usually familiar with our user name policy and a gentle warning probably would have sufficed to convince the user to choose a better user name 2) a COI does not affect the notability of the subject. I want to believe that this is a good faith effort by a well meaning new editor, who should be welcomed, given appropriate guidance, and retained as a contributor. Mduvekot ( talk) 22:59, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- @
Mduvekot: - I didn't even have a look at the author, all I saw was the page for Janet before me. In your opinion would be appropriate to shorten this page? Mainly by removing most of Studio Training and Artistic Practice. That would probably solve my worries. Thanks,
Nicnote •
ask me a question •
contributions 23:05, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- @
Nicnote: Can you clarify what your concerns are?
Mduvekot (
talk) 23:12, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- @ Mduvekot: Simply that at least half of the article comes from one source (which is inaccessible), and the rest are not (in my opinion) that well placed to pass WP:GNG for WP:ARTIST. Although as you mention this person does apparently pass 4d of WP:ARTIST for her place in exhibitions. Personally, I would delete everything related to Source 3 and consolidate the rest of the article. Does that make it a bit clearer? Nicnote • ask me a question • contributions 23:29, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- @ Nicnote: I've made some changes. I hope it's better organized now. The only concern I have about the thesis that I think you're referring to is that it probably hasn't been published by an independent, reliable source. But that shouldn't affect the notability of the subject, who has received substantial coverage from such sources. Mduvekot ( talk) 23:36, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- @
Nicnote: Can you clarify what your concerns are?
Mduvekot (
talk) 23:12, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- @
Mduvekot: - I didn't even have a look at the author, all I saw was the page for Janet before me. In your opinion would be appropriate to shorten this page? Mainly by removing most of Studio Training and Artistic Practice. That would probably solve my worries. Thanks,
Nicnote •
ask me a question •
contributions 23:05, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Withdrawn unopposed. -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 15:43, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- Janet Morton ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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I don't think Janet passes
WP:GNG for
WP:BLP.
Nicnote •
ask me a question •
contributions 21:10, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
As per comments below rescind nomination for AfD. Best,
Nicnote •
ask me a question •
contributions 00:03, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets
Notability for creative professional criteria. Exhibition section of article demonstrates she is a notable artist. (revised vote based on User:Freshacconci feedback).
Knox490 (
talk)
- "up and coming artist"? Knox490, did you read the article? She's in the National Gallery of Canada permanent collection and has had a retrospective exhibition. She was born in 1963 and has had a significant exhibition record with sources. freshacconci (✉) 11:56, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. I will take a second look at this. I am open to changing my vote of delete to keep. Will reevaluate today. Knox490 ( talk) 12:10, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Morton meets the notability criteria for artists, WP:ARTIST, specifically item 4d (is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums). The National Gallery of Canada is unquestionably notable, and having work in their collection is a major milestone in a Canadian artist's career. There is hardly anything more notable than that. A survey exhibition at the Museum London is also a major factor in establishing notability. I understand that the creator of this article has been blocked because they choose a name that does not comply with Wikipedia:Username_policy#Usernames_implying_shared_use. Their choice of name also raises the suspicion that they have a conflict of interest. I'd like to point out two things: 1) new users are not usually familiar with our user name policy and a gentle warning probably would have sufficed to convince the user to choose a better user name 2) a COI does not affect the notability of the subject. I want to believe that this is a good faith effort by a well meaning new editor, who should be welcomed, given appropriate guidance, and retained as a contributor. Mduvekot ( talk) 22:59, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- @
Mduvekot: - I didn't even have a look at the author, all I saw was the page for Janet before me. In your opinion would be appropriate to shorten this page? Mainly by removing most of Studio Training and Artistic Practice. That would probably solve my worries. Thanks,
Nicnote •
ask me a question •
contributions 23:05, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- @
Nicnote: Can you clarify what your concerns are?
Mduvekot (
talk) 23:12, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- @ Mduvekot: Simply that at least half of the article comes from one source (which is inaccessible), and the rest are not (in my opinion) that well placed to pass WP:GNG for WP:ARTIST. Although as you mention this person does apparently pass 4d of WP:ARTIST for her place in exhibitions. Personally, I would delete everything related to Source 3 and consolidate the rest of the article. Does that make it a bit clearer? Nicnote • ask me a question • contributions 23:29, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- @ Nicnote: I've made some changes. I hope it's better organized now. The only concern I have about the thesis that I think you're referring to is that it probably hasn't been published by an independent, reliable source. But that shouldn't affect the notability of the subject, who has received substantial coverage from such sources. Mduvekot ( talk) 23:36, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- @
Nicnote: Can you clarify what your concerns are?
Mduvekot (
talk) 23:12, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- @
Mduvekot: - I didn't even have a look at the author, all I saw was the page for Janet before me. In your opinion would be appropriate to shorten this page? Mainly by removing most of Studio Training and Artistic Practice. That would probably solve my worries. Thanks,
Nicnote •
ask me a question •
contributions 23:05, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 07:14, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 07:14, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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