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The result was keep. Sandstein 06:51, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
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This is one of far too many actor articles based on listings only in sources that are either non-reliable, or literally directories. My search for more sources turned up the Dutch Wikipedia article, which only has IMDb as a source. Wikipedia is not meant to be an IMDb mirror, articles need to be based on reliable sources, which IMDb is explicitly stated to not be. There is clearly not enough sourcing on Teulings to pass the general notability guidelines. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 03:10, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep. Significant career with major roles. Finding sources online will be a challenge but that has no bearing on notability. --
Michig (
talk)
09:00, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- We don't keep articles because they alledgedly could have reliable sources. People have to identify the reliable sources to justify keeping the article. The sources do not have to be on line, but they have to be identified. You can not just hand wave and claim sources exist.
John Pack Lambert (
talk)
22:15, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- And we don't just delete articles because people can't find sources on Google. --
Michig (
talk)
22:19, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- One of the key pillars of Wikipedia is verifiability. Unless the facts in an article can be verified by reliable sources, we do in fact delete the article.
John Pack Lambert (
talk)
01:20, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Sources are available on the first page of google. Of course, in order to notice those sources you have to try first. Trackinfo ( talk) 15:32, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- One of the key pillars of Wikipedia is verifiability. Unless the facts in an article can be verified by reliable sources, we do in fact delete the article.
John Pack Lambert (
talk)
01:20, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- And we don't just delete articles because people can't find sources on Google. --
Michig (
talk)
22:19, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- We don't keep articles because they alledgedly could have reliable sources. People have to identify the reliable sources to justify keeping the article. The sources do not have to be on line, but they have to be identified. You can not just hand wave and claim sources exist.
John Pack Lambert (
talk)
22:15, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. A quick gBooks search shows the sources JPL rolled to disbelieve about. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:14, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 06:45, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 06:45, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. I added two sources to the article, there is significantly more to be added and additional content can we developed just from one of those sources. Trackinfo ( talk) 15:31, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Sandstein 06:51, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
- Jan Teulings ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
This is one of far too many actor articles based on listings only in sources that are either non-reliable, or literally directories. My search for more sources turned up the Dutch Wikipedia article, which only has IMDb as a source. Wikipedia is not meant to be an IMDb mirror, articles need to be based on reliable sources, which IMDb is explicitly stated to not be. There is clearly not enough sourcing on Teulings to pass the general notability guidelines. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 03:10, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 05:57, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 05:57, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Significant career with major roles. Finding sources online will be a challenge but that has no bearing on notability. --
Michig (
talk)
09:00, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- We don't keep articles because they alledgedly could have reliable sources. People have to identify the reliable sources to justify keeping the article. The sources do not have to be on line, but they have to be identified. You can not just hand wave and claim sources exist.
John Pack Lambert (
talk)
22:15, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- And we don't just delete articles because people can't find sources on Google. --
Michig (
talk)
22:19, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- One of the key pillars of Wikipedia is verifiability. Unless the facts in an article can be verified by reliable sources, we do in fact delete the article.
John Pack Lambert (
talk)
01:20, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Sources are available on the first page of google. Of course, in order to notice those sources you have to try first. Trackinfo ( talk) 15:32, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- One of the key pillars of Wikipedia is verifiability. Unless the facts in an article can be verified by reliable sources, we do in fact delete the article.
John Pack Lambert (
talk)
01:20, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- And we don't just delete articles because people can't find sources on Google. --
Michig (
talk)
22:19, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- We don't keep articles because they alledgedly could have reliable sources. People have to identify the reliable sources to justify keeping the article. The sources do not have to be on line, but they have to be identified. You can not just hand wave and claim sources exist.
John Pack Lambert (
talk)
22:15, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. A quick gBooks search shows the sources JPL rolled to disbelieve about. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:14, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 06:45, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 06:45, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. I added two sources to the article, there is significantly more to be added and additional content can we developed just from one of those sources. Trackinfo ( talk) 15:31, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.