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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 07:32, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
Jake Kaese
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Fails WP:NBIO. Sarrail (talk) 04:49, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and Canada. AllyD ( talk) 07:58, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- Right now, it is currently being improved by Nfitz, and am starting to shift from deleting to keeping the article, though I am still continuing this AfD until more notability is addressed. Sarrail (talk) 22:37, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - I've added 5 references. 2 or 3 are in-depth and extensive. Much is local, but one of the significant one Victoria's Times Colonist. Nfitz ( talk) 22:42, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. The notability test for an actor is not passed just by adding a bit of "local kid does stuff" human interest coverage from the actor's hometown media market — it requires a broad range of coverage and analysis from beyond just the subject's own hometown area. Further, he was not a main star of any of the films or TV shows listed in the filmography — three of the four roles were completely unnamed bit parts, and he had a name in the fourth but it was still a bit part, so these roles can't be considered "significant" for the purposes of NACTOR #1 (which is looking for the significance of his specific role, not the general prominence of the work itself). As always, WP:GNG is not just "count the footnotes and keep anybody who's gotten past two" — it also takes into account factors like geographic range and the context of what the person is getting coverage for, so having a handful of local-interest coverage in his own local media, and nothing at all beyond it, is not sufficient coverage to secure the permanent notability of a kid who had four bit part roles 20 years ago and has never acted again since. Especially since even the local coverage is more than 50 per cent in the context of being diabetic, and consequently having his father participate in local diabetes fundraisers, rather than anything relevant to a Wikipedia notability criterion. Bearcat ( talk) 15:11, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:41, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per Bearcat's reasoning. I don't see in depth coverage, and I don't see a notable acting career. Maybe shift what's here into his father's article. OsFish ( talk) 07:45, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:54, 23 December 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:36, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete lack of sourcing, I guess he plays hockey now, found one listing for that, then the social media sites, then imdb, then it peters off. Even his Rotten Tomatoes profile is pretty empty, so he didn't garner critical attention, so nothing for GNG. Oaktree b ( talk) 05:50, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. All the cuurent cited sources are either local news or fails to demonstrate the subject's importance. When I search the subject's name, it's only ever found as an item in some lists. Not significant enough to justify a separate article. Tutwakhamoe ( talk) 06:00, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 07:32, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
Jake Kaese
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Fails WP:NBIO. Sarrail (talk) 04:49, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and Canada. AllyD ( talk) 07:58, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- Right now, it is currently being improved by Nfitz, and am starting to shift from deleting to keeping the article, though I am still continuing this AfD until more notability is addressed. Sarrail (talk) 22:37, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - I've added 5 references. 2 or 3 are in-depth and extensive. Much is local, but one of the significant one Victoria's Times Colonist. Nfitz ( talk) 22:42, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. The notability test for an actor is not passed just by adding a bit of "local kid does stuff" human interest coverage from the actor's hometown media market — it requires a broad range of coverage and analysis from beyond just the subject's own hometown area. Further, he was not a main star of any of the films or TV shows listed in the filmography — three of the four roles were completely unnamed bit parts, and he had a name in the fourth but it was still a bit part, so these roles can't be considered "significant" for the purposes of NACTOR #1 (which is looking for the significance of his specific role, not the general prominence of the work itself). As always, WP:GNG is not just "count the footnotes and keep anybody who's gotten past two" — it also takes into account factors like geographic range and the context of what the person is getting coverage for, so having a handful of local-interest coverage in his own local media, and nothing at all beyond it, is not sufficient coverage to secure the permanent notability of a kid who had four bit part roles 20 years ago and has never acted again since. Especially since even the local coverage is more than 50 per cent in the context of being diabetic, and consequently having his father participate in local diabetes fundraisers, rather than anything relevant to a Wikipedia notability criterion. Bearcat ( talk) 15:11, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:41, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per Bearcat's reasoning. I don't see in depth coverage, and I don't see a notable acting career. Maybe shift what's here into his father's article. OsFish ( talk) 07:45, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:54, 23 December 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:36, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete lack of sourcing, I guess he plays hockey now, found one listing for that, then the social media sites, then imdb, then it peters off. Even his Rotten Tomatoes profile is pretty empty, so he didn't garner critical attention, so nothing for GNG. Oaktree b ( talk) 05:50, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. All the cuurent cited sources are either local news or fails to demonstrate the subject's importance. When I search the subject's name, it's only ever found as an item in some lists. Not significant enough to justify a separate article. Tutwakhamoe ( talk) 06:00, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.