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The result was no consensus. As relisted twice with no clear determinable consensus. (non-admin closure) — Music1201 talk 21:49, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
J. Downing
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Delete: as non-notable actor. Possible merge with spouse, Christina Carlisi. Quis separabit? 01:06, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as an unsourced BLP. Bradv 19:08, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 10:35, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
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- Keep passes WP:NACTOR prominent role in 43 episodes of Viper, also films such as Ghoulies 2 Atlantic306 ( talk) 15:28, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - WP:NACTOR. Poor article quality does not negate notability. DaltonCastle ( talk) 01:43, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- NOTE: despite
@DaltonCastle's assertion, I did not refer this article for deletion discussion due to "Poor article quality", although that is certainly the case. That I can fix. I also dispute
@Atlantic306's claim that the actor is prominent in any way, particularly for having appeared in "43 episodes of Viper, also films such as Ghoulies 2", which is a sad commentary on what, for some, constitutes notability these days. @Atlantic306 has a history of voting to keep almost any crappy and/or ridiculous article no matter how trivial and thus degrading to Wikipedia's reputation as the premier online encyclopaedia, which becomes tiresome. (See
[1],
[2],
[3],
[4]), just for starters.) And please don't bother rebuking or chastising me or reminding me about AGF and IAR. I am all too aware but some things need to be said.
Quis separabit? 20:13, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
- In reply, you are acting as a snob critic. Its bad enough for the creators of the article to be brought to AFD without being belittled as wholly unnotable, or crappy article, and if you think your comments will stop me opposing unnecessary deletions you're mistaken. Atlantic306 ( talk) 20:29, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
- NOTE: despite
@DaltonCastle's assertion, I did not refer this article for deletion discussion due to "Poor article quality", although that is certainly the case. That I can fix. I also dispute
@Atlantic306's claim that the actor is prominent in any way, particularly for having appeared in "43 episodes of Viper, also films such as Ghoulies 2", which is a sad commentary on what, for some, constitutes notability these days. @Atlantic306 has a history of voting to keep almost any crappy and/or ridiculous article no matter how trivial and thus degrading to Wikipedia's reputation as the premier online encyclopaedia, which becomes tiresome. (See
[1],
[2],
[3],
[4]), just for starters.) And please don't bother rebuking or chastising me or reminding me about AGF and IAR. I am all too aware but some things need to be said.
Quis separabit? 20:13, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:13, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:13, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Delete at best as there's nothing suggesting the necessary improvements for a better notable article. SwisterTwister talk 04:49, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, right, "unnecessary deletions", @Atlantic306: that's why you are the sole keep vote for Chiara Bellati and Pension Volkmann, while Sonu Lal was speedily deleted already. Quis separabit? 04:53, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- Weak keep. First, as the article was created in 2006, being an unsourced blp doesn't apply. However, he does appear to pass WP:NACTOR, his recurring main role in a TV series, Viper, plus significant roles in two films Ghoulies II, and Robot Wars. The rest of his career reveals that he is a working actor, and he works consistently, but his roles are certainly up and down, from bit parts to significant roles in episodic tv, even significant roles in non-notable films like C'mon Man. While NACTOR only states that they may be notable, I think those 3 significant roles in notable films (regardless of how crappy you think those films are), along with his body of work squeaks him over the level required to meet notability criteria. Onel5969 TT me 13:01, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 08:39, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 08:39, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. As relisted twice with no clear determinable consensus. (non-admin closure) — Music1201 talk 21:49, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
J. Downing
- J. Downing ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Delete: as non-notable actor. Possible merge with spouse, Christina Carlisi. Quis separabit? 01:06, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as an unsourced BLP. Bradv 19:08, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 10:35, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 10:35, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- Keep passes WP:NACTOR prominent role in 43 episodes of Viper, also films such as Ghoulies 2 Atlantic306 ( talk) 15:28, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - WP:NACTOR. Poor article quality does not negate notability. DaltonCastle ( talk) 01:43, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- NOTE: despite
@DaltonCastle's assertion, I did not refer this article for deletion discussion due to "Poor article quality", although that is certainly the case. That I can fix. I also dispute
@Atlantic306's claim that the actor is prominent in any way, particularly for having appeared in "43 episodes of Viper, also films such as Ghoulies 2", which is a sad commentary on what, for some, constitutes notability these days. @Atlantic306 has a history of voting to keep almost any crappy and/or ridiculous article no matter how trivial and thus degrading to Wikipedia's reputation as the premier online encyclopaedia, which becomes tiresome. (See
[1],
[2],
[3],
[4]), just for starters.) And please don't bother rebuking or chastising me or reminding me about AGF and IAR. I am all too aware but some things need to be said.
Quis separabit? 20:13, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
- In reply, you are acting as a snob critic. Its bad enough for the creators of the article to be brought to AFD without being belittled as wholly unnotable, or crappy article, and if you think your comments will stop me opposing unnecessary deletions you're mistaken. Atlantic306 ( talk) 20:29, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
- NOTE: despite
@DaltonCastle's assertion, I did not refer this article for deletion discussion due to "Poor article quality", although that is certainly the case. That I can fix. I also dispute
@Atlantic306's claim that the actor is prominent in any way, particularly for having appeared in "43 episodes of Viper, also films such as Ghoulies 2", which is a sad commentary on what, for some, constitutes notability these days. @Atlantic306 has a history of voting to keep almost any crappy and/or ridiculous article no matter how trivial and thus degrading to Wikipedia's reputation as the premier online encyclopaedia, which becomes tiresome. (See
[1],
[2],
[3],
[4]), just for starters.) And please don't bother rebuking or chastising me or reminding me about AGF and IAR. I am all too aware but some things need to be said.
Quis separabit? 20:13, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:13, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:13, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Delete at best as there's nothing suggesting the necessary improvements for a better notable article. SwisterTwister talk 04:49, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, right, "unnecessary deletions", @Atlantic306: that's why you are the sole keep vote for Chiara Bellati and Pension Volkmann, while Sonu Lal was speedily deleted already. Quis separabit? 04:53, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- Weak keep. First, as the article was created in 2006, being an unsourced blp doesn't apply. However, he does appear to pass WP:NACTOR, his recurring main role in a TV series, Viper, plus significant roles in two films Ghoulies II, and Robot Wars. The rest of his career reveals that he is a working actor, and he works consistently, but his roles are certainly up and down, from bit parts to significant roles in episodic tv, even significant roles in non-notable films like C'mon Man. While NACTOR only states that they may be notable, I think those 3 significant roles in notable films (regardless of how crappy you think those films are), along with his body of work squeaks him over the level required to meet notability criteria. Onel5969 TT me 13:01, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 08:39, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 08:39, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
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