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The result was redirect to Wanderstop. The article's history is preserved in the redirect, and can be moved to a draft if editors wish to incubate this article. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 17:30, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP; the sources are largely about Wanderstop rather than giving significant coverage to the studio. Could be redirected or merged to said game as an alternative to deleting. Either way, I suggest SALTing/protecting the page to prevent recreation, as it has been deleted once already for similar reasons. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 15:12, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Video games and Companies. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 15:12, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy redirect again: If I understand correctly, this draft was moved to AFD-ed mainspace by the creator themselves. @
BarntToust: Try to avoid this by submitting your draft in the future as this situation is bad conduct.
IgelRM (
talk)
19:25, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Self moving a draft to mainspace is perfectly allowed, and it allows for articles to be left unfinished for a while while they're being created, which appears to be what occurred. All protocols were being followed here, besides, obviously, the article failing notability.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ)
19:42, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @
Zxcvbnm: But if intentionally doing so after a successful AFD seems rather bold? Article for Creation appears exactly suited check if the notability issue can be resolved. Well, sorry BarntToust if I'm missing something here.
IgelRM (
talk)
20:10, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- You're allowed to recreate an article after an AfD if you have discovered clear new sources that might invalidate the AfD result. I do think AfC would have been the right move and one would have to ask if there is a major COI issue here, but the whole moving draft to mainspace thing isn't in itself a problem.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ)
20:15, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- All well and duly noted. Good to keep in draft until further notability can be established. Probably move most current details into Wanderstor article. Cheers!
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BarntToust (
talk)
02:56, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keeping it in draftspace is pointless if it is unclear whether it will ever be notable. Draftspace is for articles on notable subjects that are not yet finished. It seems it will be redirected, so the history will be saved if it is ever to be recreated. Otherwise it is best to store it locally on your device. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 13:39, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- You're allowed to recreate an article after an AfD if you have discovered clear new sources that might invalidate the AfD result. I do think AfC would have been the right move and one would have to ask if there is a major COI issue here, but the whole moving draft to mainspace thing isn't in itself a problem.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ)
20:15, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @
Zxcvbnm: But if intentionally doing so after a successful AFD seems rather bold? Article for Creation appears exactly suited check if the notability issue can be resolved. Well, sorry BarntToust if I'm missing something here.
IgelRM (
talk)
20:10, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Self moving a draft to mainspace is perfectly allowed, and it allows for articles to be left unfinished for a while while they're being created, which appears to be what occurred. All protocols were being followed here, besides, obviously, the article failing notability.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ)
19:42, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect (to
Wanderstop), or perferably re-draftify, per nom. It's
too early for a full article and the current article is mostly a repeat of
Wanderstop, but it could become notable in the near future.
TappyTurtle [
talk |
contribs]
06:37, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'd like to draft it. It may be notable in the future, and I don't think it needs to necessarily re-direct to Wanderstop, or C418 or Davey Wreden for that matter. Too many good re-direct candidates for that to be plausible. ( Karla Zimonja is already a re-direct). BarntToust ( talk) 20:38, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that Wanderstop is the best target as it virtually completely overlaps for a redirect and the author may later recreate the draft in any way. IgelRM ( talk) 20:18, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Wanderstop. The article's history is preserved in the redirect, and can be moved to a draft if editors wish to incubate this article. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 17:30, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Ivy Road ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP; the sources are largely about Wanderstop rather than giving significant coverage to the studio. Could be redirected or merged to said game as an alternative to deleting. Either way, I suggest SALTing/protecting the page to prevent recreation, as it has been deleted once already for similar reasons. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 15:12, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Video games and Companies. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 15:12, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy redirect again: If I understand correctly, this draft was moved to AFD-ed mainspace by the creator themselves. @
BarntToust: Try to avoid this by submitting your draft in the future as this situation is bad conduct.
IgelRM (
talk)
19:25, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Self moving a draft to mainspace is perfectly allowed, and it allows for articles to be left unfinished for a while while they're being created, which appears to be what occurred. All protocols were being followed here, besides, obviously, the article failing notability.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ)
19:42, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @
Zxcvbnm: But if intentionally doing so after a successful AFD seems rather bold? Article for Creation appears exactly suited check if the notability issue can be resolved. Well, sorry BarntToust if I'm missing something here.
IgelRM (
talk)
20:10, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- You're allowed to recreate an article after an AfD if you have discovered clear new sources that might invalidate the AfD result. I do think AfC would have been the right move and one would have to ask if there is a major COI issue here, but the whole moving draft to mainspace thing isn't in itself a problem.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ)
20:15, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- All well and duly noted. Good to keep in draft until further notability can be established. Probably move most current details into Wanderstor article. Cheers!
-
BarntToust (
talk)
02:56, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keeping it in draftspace is pointless if it is unclear whether it will ever be notable. Draftspace is for articles on notable subjects that are not yet finished. It seems it will be redirected, so the history will be saved if it is ever to be recreated. Otherwise it is best to store it locally on your device. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 13:39, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- You're allowed to recreate an article after an AfD if you have discovered clear new sources that might invalidate the AfD result. I do think AfC would have been the right move and one would have to ask if there is a major COI issue here, but the whole moving draft to mainspace thing isn't in itself a problem.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ)
20:15, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @
Zxcvbnm: But if intentionally doing so after a successful AFD seems rather bold? Article for Creation appears exactly suited check if the notability issue can be resolved. Well, sorry BarntToust if I'm missing something here.
IgelRM (
talk)
20:10, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Self moving a draft to mainspace is perfectly allowed, and it allows for articles to be left unfinished for a while while they're being created, which appears to be what occurred. All protocols were being followed here, besides, obviously, the article failing notability.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ)
19:42, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect (to
Wanderstop), or perferably re-draftify, per nom. It's
too early for a full article and the current article is mostly a repeat of
Wanderstop, but it could become notable in the near future.
TappyTurtle [
talk |
contribs]
06:37, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'd like to draft it. It may be notable in the future, and I don't think it needs to necessarily re-direct to Wanderstop, or C418 or Davey Wreden for that matter. Too many good re-direct candidates for that to be plausible. ( Karla Zimonja is already a re-direct). BarntToust ( talk) 20:38, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that Wanderstop is the best target as it virtually completely overlaps for a redirect and the author may later recreate the draft in any way. IgelRM ( talk) 20:18, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.