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The result was delete. Fails notabily guidelines Less Unless ( talk) 22:01, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
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An exercise in bad map-reading on the part of the GNIS compilers, as the topos clearly show this to be a sort of swampy area on the water's edge, whose label is consistently in the wrong font for a settlement. I'd actually love to know what it was— perhaps a manor?— but I could find nothing that explained it at all. Mangoe ( talk) 23:49, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - not entirely sure what this was, either. There's literally no newspapers.com hits for "Israel Haul" in Delaware, which isn't something you see often. I can turn up a 1966 Geological Bulletin calling it a "locality" and a 1990 government document listing "Israel Haul (marsh)" in a list of features in a proposed area for the Delaware National Estuarine Reserve. Everything else is just clickbait, scanner errors, or the words Israel and haul appearing consecutively. I guess it's a marsh, but this is definitely non-notable. Hog Farm Talk 02:15, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Nothing definitive in JStor, GBooks, GScholar, Bing, newspapers.com. In the historical topos, it first appears in the 1948 1:24,000 Frankford, DE topo. Previous topos are of a larger scale. My WP:OR theory is that it is a portage of some sort between two bodies of water or somehow associated with nearby Israel Point. I tried looking for Israel Point as well and found nothing of note. Another place to look is that searching GNIS for "Haul" in Delaware finds Millsboro which has a variant of Rock Haul that cites "Alotta, Robert I. Signposts and Settlers : The History of Place Names in the Middle Atlantic States. 31-Dec-1992. Chicago : Bonus Books." I found no evidence Israel Haul was ever a populated place, never mind as to whether this is notable populated place. This is possibly the least notable AfD I've ever researched. As this location is not legally recognized and has no coverage other than items derived from GNIS, it fails to meet WP:GNG or WP:GEOLAND. Cxbrx ( talk) 02:29, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Per Nom. Another GNIS-fail -- Otr500 ( talk) 02:35, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Fails notabily guidelines Less Unless ( talk) 22:01, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
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An exercise in bad map-reading on the part of the GNIS compilers, as the topos clearly show this to be a sort of swampy area on the water's edge, whose label is consistently in the wrong font for a settlement. I'd actually love to know what it was— perhaps a manor?— but I could find nothing that explained it at all. Mangoe ( talk) 23:49, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Talk 01:44, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Delaware-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Talk 01:44, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - not entirely sure what this was, either. There's literally no newspapers.com hits for "Israel Haul" in Delaware, which isn't something you see often. I can turn up a 1966 Geological Bulletin calling it a "locality" and a 1990 government document listing "Israel Haul (marsh)" in a list of features in a proposed area for the Delaware National Estuarine Reserve. Everything else is just clickbait, scanner errors, or the words Israel and haul appearing consecutively. I guess it's a marsh, but this is definitely non-notable. Hog Farm Talk 02:15, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Nothing definitive in JStor, GBooks, GScholar, Bing, newspapers.com. In the historical topos, it first appears in the 1948 1:24,000 Frankford, DE topo. Previous topos are of a larger scale. My WP:OR theory is that it is a portage of some sort between two bodies of water or somehow associated with nearby Israel Point. I tried looking for Israel Point as well and found nothing of note. Another place to look is that searching GNIS for "Haul" in Delaware finds Millsboro which has a variant of Rock Haul that cites "Alotta, Robert I. Signposts and Settlers : The History of Place Names in the Middle Atlantic States. 31-Dec-1992. Chicago : Bonus Books." I found no evidence Israel Haul was ever a populated place, never mind as to whether this is notable populated place. This is possibly the least notable AfD I've ever researched. As this location is not legally recognized and has no coverage other than items derived from GNIS, it fails to meet WP:GNG or WP:GEOLAND. Cxbrx ( talk) 02:29, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Per Nom. Another GNIS-fail -- Otr500 ( talk) 02:35, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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