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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) — UY Scuti Talk 18:37, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
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Unsourced and it is not a notable rivalry. Corkythe hornetfan (ping me) 20:40, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Delete or merge into their respective articles - this is not a very notable subject. -- Therealelizacat ( talk) 20:50, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 20:59, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
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- Keep - I'm not sure everyone agrees about the game being a true rivalry, notable or not, but the "Heroes game" is notable and the title, "Iowa–Nebraska football rivalry" matches other rivalry games in the conference. The conference, both teams, and college football media call it a rivalry game and the game is frequently referred to as the Heroes game, Heroes Trophy game, or a rivalry game. Smmurphy( Talk) 21:19, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - The article needs sourcing, of course, but I think this one passes the WP:GNG bar. The first step is determining whether there is coverage of the series as a rivalry. My searches show that such coverage is abundant. Examples include the following: (1) Associated Press ("From the moment Nebraska joined the Big Ten, the league tried to make Iowa its biggest rival. The conference didn't need to try so hard. . . . his comments are indicative of just how heated the series between these border-state rivals has become in recent years."); (2) Quad-City Times ("there is a growing border rivalry between the two schools . . . 'In football, it’s pretty big,' Iowa center Adam Woodbury said of the Iowa-Nebraska rivalry."); (3) Sioux City Journal ("Iowa-Nebraska football rivalry spills into Sioux City politics"); (4) The Grand Island Independent ("Iowa-NU rivalry heats up in a hurry"). In fairness, some articles question whether it's too soon to call it a true rivalry. See (5) Ottumwa Courier ("Iowa hopes to make Nebraska game true rivalry"). Other factors to be weighed include: (i) border-state series like this are more likley to be considered rivalries; (ii) series competitiveness is so-so with Nebraska winning 29 of 46 matches; (iii) existence of a trophy (Heroes Trophy awarded to winner, see here) adds to the bona fides of the claim to rivalry status; (iv) antiquity of the series dating back to 1891 with 21 games prior to 1920 also adds to the bona fides of the rivalry claim; (v) frequency of play (46 games with long gaps from 1947-78 and 1983-98, but they are now in the same division and play every year); (vi) prominence of the programs (six claimed national titles, five of them Nebraska's, since 1958). Cbl62 ( talk) 21:48, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - There is a rivalry trophy and are in neighboring states.-- SportsMaster ( talk) 01:00, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - It's a major rivalry for a trophy. Ample coverage in third party sources. Smartyllama ( talk) 16:46, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) — UY Scuti Talk 18:37, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
- Iowa–Nebraska football rivalry ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Unsourced and it is not a notable rivalry. Corkythe hornetfan (ping me) 20:40, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Delete or merge into their respective articles - this is not a very notable subject. -- Therealelizacat ( talk) 20:50, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 20:59, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 20:59, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Iowa-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 20:59, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nebraska-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 20:59, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - I'm not sure everyone agrees about the game being a true rivalry, notable or not, but the "Heroes game" is notable and the title, "Iowa–Nebraska football rivalry" matches other rivalry games in the conference. The conference, both teams, and college football media call it a rivalry game and the game is frequently referred to as the Heroes game, Heroes Trophy game, or a rivalry game. Smmurphy( Talk) 21:19, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - The article needs sourcing, of course, but I think this one passes the WP:GNG bar. The first step is determining whether there is coverage of the series as a rivalry. My searches show that such coverage is abundant. Examples include the following: (1) Associated Press ("From the moment Nebraska joined the Big Ten, the league tried to make Iowa its biggest rival. The conference didn't need to try so hard. . . . his comments are indicative of just how heated the series between these border-state rivals has become in recent years."); (2) Quad-City Times ("there is a growing border rivalry between the two schools . . . 'In football, it’s pretty big,' Iowa center Adam Woodbury said of the Iowa-Nebraska rivalry."); (3) Sioux City Journal ("Iowa-Nebraska football rivalry spills into Sioux City politics"); (4) The Grand Island Independent ("Iowa-NU rivalry heats up in a hurry"). In fairness, some articles question whether it's too soon to call it a true rivalry. See (5) Ottumwa Courier ("Iowa hopes to make Nebraska game true rivalry"). Other factors to be weighed include: (i) border-state series like this are more likley to be considered rivalries; (ii) series competitiveness is so-so with Nebraska winning 29 of 46 matches; (iii) existence of a trophy (Heroes Trophy awarded to winner, see here) adds to the bona fides of the claim to rivalry status; (iv) antiquity of the series dating back to 1891 with 21 games prior to 1920 also adds to the bona fides of the rivalry claim; (v) frequency of play (46 games with long gaps from 1947-78 and 1983-98, but they are now in the same division and play every year); (vi) prominence of the programs (six claimed national titles, five of them Nebraska's, since 1958). Cbl62 ( talk) 21:48, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - There is a rivalry trophy and are in neighboring states.-- SportsMaster ( talk) 01:00, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - It's a major rivalry for a trophy. Ample coverage in third party sources. Smartyllama ( talk) 16:46, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
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