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The result was delete. Looks like the sources are not deemed sufficient Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 19:40, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
Indoor Gridiron League
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Finding very little sources or references required for WP:GNG on this regional semipro league that played a few seasons (their facebook page posted about a champion in June 2016). For a league supposedly backed by the professional Arena Football team, the Philadelphia Soul, it seems like there would be at least WP:ROUTINE sources. Everything else is either primary or about the league's owner other professional team, the Philadelphia Yellow Jackets. Yosemiter ( talk) 21:22, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:33, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. WikiOriginal-9 ( talk) 21:05, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Delete at this point I have to agree. We have some semi-pro leagues that meet muster and some that do not. At this point, it appears that there is nothing in the news (at least that I can find) to pass WP:GNG or any other notability measure. I would happily change my position were such references presented. However, now it just seems that the only sources are their own web page. I have WP:ADV and WP:COI concerns too.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 11:11, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — MRD2014 Talk • Edits 02:38, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — MRD2014 Talk • Edits 02:38, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Delete - nothing in the article or online suggests notability.-- Rpclod ( talk) 03:03, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Comment - Sources that mention the Indoor Gridiron League.
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WikiOriginal-9 (
talk) 20:00, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Comment interesting and worth considering. I'm not sure that they pass WP:GNG, but it certainly puts it on the table. I'm still in a delete position for now because of potential COI and ADV concerns, but those could be addressed by editing. Not ready to flip yet, but I think it's worth more discussion.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 20:09, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- I found those same articles, they are absolutely nowhere near GNG quality. 8 out of 11 merely just mention that it exists. The others are of the local newspaper variety, as in "local kid joins a semi-pro team" type headlines. Yosemiter ( talk) 20:20, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Could we get some more eyeballs on the sources turned up by User:WikiOriginal-9, please?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, A Train talk 21:24, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Could we get some more eyeballs on the sources turned up by User:WikiOriginal-9, please?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, A Train talk 21:24, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- Delete I agree with Yosemiter's take on the references; they focus more on the individuals than the league. One of them [12] is literally a paid advertisement. Power~enwiki ( talk) 05:20, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Looks like the sources are not deemed sufficient Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 19:40, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
Indoor Gridiron League
- Indoor Gridiron League ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Finding very little sources or references required for WP:GNG on this regional semipro league that played a few seasons (their facebook page posted about a champion in June 2016). For a league supposedly backed by the professional Arena Football team, the Philadelphia Soul, it seems like there would be at least WP:ROUTINE sources. Everything else is either primary or about the league's owner other professional team, the Philadelphia Yellow Jackets. Yosemiter ( talk) 21:22, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:33, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. WikiOriginal-9 ( talk) 21:05, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Delete at this point I have to agree. We have some semi-pro leagues that meet muster and some that do not. At this point, it appears that there is nothing in the news (at least that I can find) to pass WP:GNG or any other notability measure. I would happily change my position were such references presented. However, now it just seems that the only sources are their own web page. I have WP:ADV and WP:COI concerns too.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 11:11, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — MRD2014 Talk • Edits 02:38, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — MRD2014 Talk • Edits 02:38, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Delete - nothing in the article or online suggests notability.-- Rpclod ( talk) 03:03, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Comment - Sources that mention the Indoor Gridiron League.
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WikiOriginal-9 (
talk) 20:00, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Comment interesting and worth considering. I'm not sure that they pass WP:GNG, but it certainly puts it on the table. I'm still in a delete position for now because of potential COI and ADV concerns, but those could be addressed by editing. Not ready to flip yet, but I think it's worth more discussion.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 20:09, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- I found those same articles, they are absolutely nowhere near GNG quality. 8 out of 11 merely just mention that it exists. The others are of the local newspaper variety, as in "local kid joins a semi-pro team" type headlines. Yosemiter ( talk) 20:20, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Could we get some more eyeballs on the sources turned up by User:WikiOriginal-9, please?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, A Train talk 21:24, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Could we get some more eyeballs on the sources turned up by User:WikiOriginal-9, please?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, A Train talk 21:24, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- Delete I agree with Yosemiter's take on the references; they focus more on the individuals than the league. One of them [12] is literally a paid advertisement. Power~enwiki ( talk) 05:20, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
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