- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:39, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Ilia Market ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Unsourced puff piece. Market does not have a claim of notability, and article mostly discusses other things. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 13:16, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark ( talk) 15:43, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 01:13, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep, tentatively, essentially as a populated place article about a populated place with an important marketplace. It would be okay/good to move this to Ilia, Uttar Pradesh (currently a redlink) to explicitly cover the village, which apparently hosts a regional market serving 200 villages, per assertion in the Ilia Market article. Revise the article accordingly to describe it as a village which has a regional market. Ilia is apparently a village in the tehsil of Chakia tehsil (redlink) or Chakia Tehsil (of which Chakia, Uttar Pradesh is the primary town), which is one of 4 tehsils of the Chandauli district. American !voters in this AFD probably have not heard of Chandauli before, but it is apparently as big in population as the U.S. state of New Mexico, and we do not question having articles on each of NM's 33 counties, and on each of 17 communities in Catron County, New Mexico etc. Chaudauli apparently has 1651 villages, more than there are towns in New Mexico, but by assertion in this article Ilia is more important than other villages, and is 15 kilometres (9.3 mi) from Chakia, which might correspond to being a hundred miles from a county seat in New Mexico. Some editors from afar might prefer if coverage of populated places in India developed from the top down in a very orderly way, but many areas in Wikipedia developed from the bottom up. For example, coverage of National Register of Historic Places in the U.S. (which I have long been involved in) has been developing that way, in terms of articles about individual houses built in 1920 or whatever being developed, before any substantial coverage of them is developed in county list-articles. -- do ncr am 02:17, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete as per Wikipedia:Blow it up and start over. There is a village named Ilia in UP, but this article itself is impossible to verify. The claim of 10000 population is not true considering that the village itself has a population of about 5500. There is nothing about the market in any source and I am not getting any sources in Hindi either. My guess is that there may be a local village haat (as it exists in most villages), but no such place as "Ilia Market". I am finding it really hard to get references for the elevation (can't find it in any government database). The distances to the various places are estimates. The location is not specified. The economy seems to be a personal reflection instead of actually citing a source. I am not sure if it is even worth spending time to clean this up. I don't mind doing research and starting a new article myself, but this one is not worth saving.-- DreamLinker ( talk) 02:59, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:51, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:51, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete - non notable, fails to cite any source. - Mfarazbaig ( talk) 05:55, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete per DreamLinker above. MB 03:03, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:39, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Ilia Market ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Unsourced puff piece. Market does not have a claim of notability, and article mostly discusses other things. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 13:16, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark ( talk) 15:43, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 01:13, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep, tentatively, essentially as a populated place article about a populated place with an important marketplace. It would be okay/good to move this to Ilia, Uttar Pradesh (currently a redlink) to explicitly cover the village, which apparently hosts a regional market serving 200 villages, per assertion in the Ilia Market article. Revise the article accordingly to describe it as a village which has a regional market. Ilia is apparently a village in the tehsil of Chakia tehsil (redlink) or Chakia Tehsil (of which Chakia, Uttar Pradesh is the primary town), which is one of 4 tehsils of the Chandauli district. American !voters in this AFD probably have not heard of Chandauli before, but it is apparently as big in population as the U.S. state of New Mexico, and we do not question having articles on each of NM's 33 counties, and on each of 17 communities in Catron County, New Mexico etc. Chaudauli apparently has 1651 villages, more than there are towns in New Mexico, but by assertion in this article Ilia is more important than other villages, and is 15 kilometres (9.3 mi) from Chakia, which might correspond to being a hundred miles from a county seat in New Mexico. Some editors from afar might prefer if coverage of populated places in India developed from the top down in a very orderly way, but many areas in Wikipedia developed from the bottom up. For example, coverage of National Register of Historic Places in the U.S. (which I have long been involved in) has been developing that way, in terms of articles about individual houses built in 1920 or whatever being developed, before any substantial coverage of them is developed in county list-articles. -- do ncr am 02:17, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete as per Wikipedia:Blow it up and start over. There is a village named Ilia in UP, but this article itself is impossible to verify. The claim of 10000 population is not true considering that the village itself has a population of about 5500. There is nothing about the market in any source and I am not getting any sources in Hindi either. My guess is that there may be a local village haat (as it exists in most villages), but no such place as "Ilia Market". I am finding it really hard to get references for the elevation (can't find it in any government database). The distances to the various places are estimates. The location is not specified. The economy seems to be a personal reflection instead of actually citing a source. I am not sure if it is even worth spending time to clean this up. I don't mind doing research and starting a new article myself, but this one is not worth saving.-- DreamLinker ( talk) 02:59, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:51, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:51, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete - non notable, fails to cite any source. - Mfarazbaig ( talk) 05:55, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete per DreamLinker above. MB 03:03, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.