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The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:33, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Iain Walker
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Ambassadors are not inherently notable. I don't believe the predominantly passing mention and primary sources here pass WP:GNG. Uhooep ( talk) 13:13, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep; ambassadors are indeed not inherently notable. UK High Commissioners, however, often are. A quick search reveals enough for this man to be regarded notable. 𝕎.𝔾.𝕁. ( chat | contribs) 15:36, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Bilateral relations, Ghana, and United Kingdom. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 15:52, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Delete UK High commissioners are not inherently notable. A search of ["Iain Walker" ambassador -wikipedia] found only primary sources like gov.uk or routine announcements. Fails WP:BIO. LibStar ( talk) 05:16, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
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- Question: @
W.G.J., why would a UK high commissioner be notable when regular ambassadors are not? Isn't a high commissioner essentially just an ambassador to a Commonwealth country? Our
High commissioner (Commonwealth) article says:
"In the Commonwealth of Nations, a high commissioner is the senior diplomat, generally ranking as an ambassador, in charge of the diplomatic mission of one Commonwealth government to another."
- Does this mean the high commissioner to Ghana is more notable than ambassadors to America, France, Germany, Spain, Russia, China, etc.?
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- Not more notable. just a naming convention. LibStar ( talk) 03:43, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- No, my bad. I wrongfully interpreted "ambassador" in the original nomination as "diplomat", a member of a diplomatic envoy that is not by default the highest-ranking. However, I still do believe that the highest-ranking representatives, such as High Commissioners, do enjoy a particular notability but I understand that that could be put up to discussion.
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10:55, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- There is no inherent notability of ambassadors/high commissioners. In fact many have been deleted LibStar ( talk) 09:31, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: BLP, fails GNG and NBIO. Sources in the article and BEFORE found nothing that meets WP:IS WP:RS with WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth meeting BLPs requirement for strong sourcing.
- Source eval:
Comments Source Named and quoted, not WP:SIGCOV 1. "Nana Receives 4 Envoys". Modern Ghana. Retrieved 11 March 2021. Quote from article "A former Dundee man has spoken of his “cherished memories” after..." interview, fails WP:IS, WP:RS and does not have WP:SIGCOV about the subject 2. ^ Jump up to:a b Strachan, Graeme. "Dundee man spends five days hosting Duke and Duchess in Ghana". The Courier. Retrieved 11 March 2021. Speaker profile Tech in Ghana Conference London 2020". techinghanaconference.com. Archived from the original on 30 November 2019. Retrieved 11 March 2021. Appointment annoucement 4. ^ Jump up to:a b c "Iain Walker appointed new British High Commissioner to Ghana". Citi 97.3 FM - Relevant Radio. Always. 17 February 2017. Retrieved 11 March 2021. Appointment annoucement 5. ^ Jump up to:a b c d e f "Dundee man appointed High Commissioner to Ghana". Evening Telegraph. ISSN 0307-1235. Retrieved 11 March 2021. Primary 6. ^ Jump up to:a b c "Iain Walker". GOV.UK. Retrieved 11 March 2021. No WP:SIGCOV about subject 7. ^ "UK High Commissioner to Ghana, Jon Benjamin set to leave in August - MyJoyOnline.com". www.myjoyonline.com. Retrieved 11 March 2021.
- Ping me if sources meeting WP:BLP are found. // Timothy :: talk 09:25, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:33, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Iain Walker
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Ambassadors are not inherently notable. I don't believe the predominantly passing mention and primary sources here pass WP:GNG. Uhooep ( talk) 13:13, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep; ambassadors are indeed not inherently notable. UK High Commissioners, however, often are. A quick search reveals enough for this man to be regarded notable. 𝕎.𝔾.𝕁. ( chat | contribs) 15:36, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Bilateral relations, Ghana, and United Kingdom. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 15:52, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 14:08, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
- Delete UK High commissioners are not inherently notable. A search of ["Iain Walker" ambassador -wikipedia] found only primary sources like gov.uk or routine announcements. Fails WP:BIO. LibStar ( talk) 05:16, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh ( talk) 14:23, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
- Question: @
W.G.J., why would a UK high commissioner be notable when regular ambassadors are not? Isn't a high commissioner essentially just an ambassador to a Commonwealth country? Our
High commissioner (Commonwealth) article says:
"In the Commonwealth of Nations, a high commissioner is the senior diplomat, generally ranking as an ambassador, in charge of the diplomatic mission of one Commonwealth government to another."
- Does this mean the high commissioner to Ghana is more notable than ambassadors to America, France, Germany, Spain, Russia, China, etc.?
- Thanks, --
A. B. (
talk •
contribs •
global count)
03:40, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- Not more notable. just a naming convention. LibStar ( talk) 03:43, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- No, my bad. I wrongfully interpreted "ambassador" in the original nomination as "diplomat", a member of a diplomatic envoy that is not by default the highest-ranking. However, I still do believe that the highest-ranking representatives, such as High Commissioners, do enjoy a particular notability but I understand that that could be put up to discussion.
𝕎.𝔾.𝕁. (
chat |
contribs)
10:55, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- There is no inherent notability of ambassadors/high commissioners. In fact many have been deleted LibStar ( talk) 09:31, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: BLP, fails GNG and NBIO. Sources in the article and BEFORE found nothing that meets WP:IS WP:RS with WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth meeting BLPs requirement for strong sourcing.
- Source eval:
Comments Source Named and quoted, not WP:SIGCOV 1. "Nana Receives 4 Envoys". Modern Ghana. Retrieved 11 March 2021. Quote from article "A former Dundee man has spoken of his “cherished memories” after..." interview, fails WP:IS, WP:RS and does not have WP:SIGCOV about the subject 2. ^ Jump up to:a b Strachan, Graeme. "Dundee man spends five days hosting Duke and Duchess in Ghana". The Courier. Retrieved 11 March 2021. Speaker profile Tech in Ghana Conference London 2020". techinghanaconference.com. Archived from the original on 30 November 2019. Retrieved 11 March 2021. Appointment annoucement 4. ^ Jump up to:a b c "Iain Walker appointed new British High Commissioner to Ghana". Citi 97.3 FM - Relevant Radio. Always. 17 February 2017. Retrieved 11 March 2021. Appointment annoucement 5. ^ Jump up to:a b c d e f "Dundee man appointed High Commissioner to Ghana". Evening Telegraph. ISSN 0307-1235. Retrieved 11 March 2021. Primary 6. ^ Jump up to:a b c "Iain Walker". GOV.UK. Retrieved 11 March 2021. No WP:SIGCOV about subject 7. ^ "UK High Commissioner to Ghana, Jon Benjamin set to leave in August - MyJoyOnline.com". www.myjoyonline.com. Retrieved 11 March 2021.
- Ping me if sources meeting WP:BLP are found. // Timothy :: talk 09:25, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
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