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The result was delete. If there is a suspicion that this is a hoax article, then I think a Merge would involve a lot of investigation to see what content is accurate and what isn't which I think is beyond what we should expect from those editors handling Mergers. Liz Read! Talk! 02:50, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Hue people
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Inability to verify: while Hué exists as a city, I cannot find the people referred to as the Hue. At best, this is original research by the article's original creator. At worse, this is an intentional attempt to mislead, as an IP editor alleged early on in the page's life. — C.Fred ( talk) 02:20, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Vietnam-related deletion discussions. — C.Fred ( talk) 02:20, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - C.Fred put a lot of work into researching this and I looked into this also. When the article was proposed for deletion, I left a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Vietnam#Proposed for deletion: Hue people. asking for input. The article says there were 1,153,795 Hue people in 2021 and that they live in Thừa Thiên-Huế province. 2 years later our article for the province said its population was 1,272,621 people. It seems like this article is conflating the inhabitants of the province with this supposed ethnic group.
- The photo's file history says it was taken from a provincial government website:
- A machine translation of the page shows it's about the "Hue people" but reading it in context, I think it really means "the people of Hue".
- I went through all 31 cited references; they contain interesting about local food architecture, etc. None of them support the idea of a separate ethnic group called "Hue people". None support the idea that all these people speak the Cham language or the Khmer language and not the Vietnamese language.
- Our article, List of ethnic groups in Vietnam, does not mention a "Hue people".
- -- A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 03:23, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. Skynxnex ( talk) 03:51, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, a muddle created by WP:OR and confusion between province and people. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 15:29, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Merge into Thừa Thiên Huế province; a lot of this material could be used to improve coverage of its demographics and culture. I agree this article basically seems to be about the people of the province. - Indefensible ( talk) 04:18, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per Indefensible. Cheers, Last1in ( talk) 12:40, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - this is a hoax. DHN ( talk) 22:55, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. If there is a suspicion that this is a hoax article, then I think a Merge would involve a lot of investigation to see what content is accurate and what isn't which I think is beyond what we should expect from those editors handling Mergers. Liz Read! Talk! 02:50, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Hue people
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- Hue people ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Inability to verify: while Hué exists as a city, I cannot find the people referred to as the Hue. At best, this is original research by the article's original creator. At worse, this is an intentional attempt to mislead, as an IP editor alleged early on in the page's life. — C.Fred ( talk) 02:20, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Vietnam-related deletion discussions. — C.Fred ( talk) 02:20, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - C.Fred put a lot of work into researching this and I looked into this also. When the article was proposed for deletion, I left a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Vietnam#Proposed for deletion: Hue people. asking for input. The article says there were 1,153,795 Hue people in 2021 and that they live in Thừa Thiên-Huế province. 2 years later our article for the province said its population was 1,272,621 people. It seems like this article is conflating the inhabitants of the province with this supposed ethnic group.
- The photo's file history says it was taken from a provincial government website:
- A machine translation of the page shows it's about the "Hue people" but reading it in context, I think it really means "the people of Hue".
- I went through all 31 cited references; they contain interesting about local food architecture, etc. None of them support the idea of a separate ethnic group called "Hue people". None support the idea that all these people speak the Cham language or the Khmer language and not the Vietnamese language.
- Our article, List of ethnic groups in Vietnam, does not mention a "Hue people".
- -- A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 03:23, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. Skynxnex ( talk) 03:51, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, a muddle created by WP:OR and confusion between province and people. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 15:29, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Merge into Thừa Thiên Huế province; a lot of this material could be used to improve coverage of its demographics and culture. I agree this article basically seems to be about the people of the province. - Indefensible ( talk) 04:18, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per Indefensible. Cheers, Last1in ( talk) 12:40, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - this is a hoax. DHN ( talk) 22:55, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
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