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The result was redirect to Camp Horn. Missvain ( talk) 02:33, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
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There was pretty clearly a railroad station here: the foundations of three trackside buildings are still visible, and Street View also shows a water tank. These buildings also show up on topos, and that's about it: there is nothing else around except the inevitable parallel road and a strip of farmland a bit to the south, along the river. Searching is next to hopeless due to the multiplicity of false hits but I got nothing but clickbait. Mangoe ( talk) 04:25, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Its current status and inconvenient name are not reasons to delete. With an estimated population of 25 in 1933 ( [1]), it was described as a growing community in 1941, two years later it become the site of Camp Horn, Arizona, and rightly or wrongly it still appears on maps ( [2]) and descriptions ( [3]) as a location. If enough isn't found for a separate article it should be merged with Camp Horn, Arizona.---- Pontificalibus 07:33, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 07:57, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep "There was pretty clearly a railroad station here..." Enough said. Andrew🐉( talk) 09:30, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Not in the USA. We have routinely deleted places that consisted only of a station stop.
Mangoe (
talk)
13:32, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- That's not what
WP:RAILOUTCOMES says. My !vote stands.
Andrew🐉(
talk)
13:51, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Not really, it says "Other [non-heavy] stations are usually kept or merged and redirected to an article about the line or system they are on. If there was sig coverage about a station here, it could have an article. If there was anything to merge into the article on the Union Pacific in Arizona, it could be merged. If it was mentioned in some article, it could be redirected. Otherwise, it's a delete from a rail perspective. MB 15:33, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- That's not what
WP:RAILOUTCOMES says. My !vote stands.
Andrew🐉(
talk)
13:51, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Not in the USA. We have routinely deleted places that consisted only of a station stop.
Mangoe (
talk)
13:32, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Camp Horn. No evidence of any kind of organized community here. Some people may have lived on farms in the area, leading to a mention or two that it was a community - because using the name of the closest named rail siding was convenient way to indicate the area. MB 15:33, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Camp Horn. No evidence of any kind of organized community here per MB. Fails GNG and NGEO. // Timothy :: talk 00:25, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect The site of the camp having been on the railroad can be covered there. Even WP:RAILOUTCOMES applied here, that would apply for a Horn railroad station article, not one about a community. Reywas92 Talk 18:52, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 11:38, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 11:38, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect per above. WP:GEOLAND gives near-automatic notability to legally recognised populated places. I don't see any evidence that this place is or was legally recognised, even if it's mentioned as somewhere people lived. If it's an unrecognised populated place, or something else like a station, then it has to pass the WP:GNG. The passing mentions linked are not nearly sufficient for this. Hut 8.5 11:35, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 19:56, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 19:56, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Camp Horn per above discussion. There is basically nothing to write about this community other than it possibly existed. FOARP ( talk) 21:09, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was redirect to Camp Horn. Missvain ( talk) 02:33, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
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There was pretty clearly a railroad station here: the foundations of three trackside buildings are still visible, and Street View also shows a water tank. These buildings also show up on topos, and that's about it: there is nothing else around except the inevitable parallel road and a strip of farmland a bit to the south, along the river. Searching is next to hopeless due to the multiplicity of false hits but I got nothing but clickbait. Mangoe ( talk) 04:25, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Its current status and inconvenient name are not reasons to delete. With an estimated population of 25 in 1933 ( [1]), it was described as a growing community in 1941, two years later it become the site of Camp Horn, Arizona, and rightly or wrongly it still appears on maps ( [2]) and descriptions ( [3]) as a location. If enough isn't found for a separate article it should be merged with Camp Horn, Arizona.---- Pontificalibus 07:33, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 07:57, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 07:57, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Keep "There was pretty clearly a railroad station here..." Enough said. Andrew🐉( talk) 09:30, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Not in the USA. We have routinely deleted places that consisted only of a station stop.
Mangoe (
talk)
13:32, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- That's not what
WP:RAILOUTCOMES says. My !vote stands.
Andrew🐉(
talk)
13:51, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Not really, it says "Other [non-heavy] stations are usually kept or merged and redirected to an article about the line or system they are on. If there was sig coverage about a station here, it could have an article. If there was anything to merge into the article on the Union Pacific in Arizona, it could be merged. If it was mentioned in some article, it could be redirected. Otherwise, it's a delete from a rail perspective. MB 15:33, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- That's not what
WP:RAILOUTCOMES says. My !vote stands.
Andrew🐉(
talk)
13:51, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Not in the USA. We have routinely deleted places that consisted only of a station stop.
Mangoe (
talk)
13:32, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Camp Horn. No evidence of any kind of organized community here. Some people may have lived on farms in the area, leading to a mention or two that it was a community - because using the name of the closest named rail siding was convenient way to indicate the area. MB 15:33, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Camp Horn. No evidence of any kind of organized community here per MB. Fails GNG and NGEO. // Timothy :: talk 00:25, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect The site of the camp having been on the railroad can be covered there. Even WP:RAILOUTCOMES applied here, that would apply for a Horn railroad station article, not one about a community. Reywas92 Talk 18:52, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 11:38, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 11:38, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect per above. WP:GEOLAND gives near-automatic notability to legally recognised populated places. I don't see any evidence that this place is or was legally recognised, even if it's mentioned as somewhere people lived. If it's an unrecognised populated place, or something else like a station, then it has to pass the WP:GNG. The passing mentions linked are not nearly sufficient for this. Hut 8.5 11:35, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 19:56, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 19:56, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Camp Horn per above discussion. There is basically nothing to write about this community other than it possibly existed. FOARP ( talk) 21:09, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.