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The result was delete. Hog Farm Talk 14:20, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
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Unsourced. I can find no evidence of this summit passing WP:GEOLAND, nor can it be found in GNIS. Lennart97 ( talk) 20:07, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Lennart97 ( talk) 20:07, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:43, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete It's a non-notable hill. Oaktree b ( talk) 01:19, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Can't find anything in Newspapers.Com on it except that the "Golf Club of Newport" used to be the "Honey Hill Golf Club" but even if that were notable it would be for the club, not the hill. BBQboffin ( talk) 01:47, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - Non-notable hill fails NGEO. – dlthewave ☎ 04:58, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to
Herkimer County, New York#Geography. I'm seeing next to zero significant coverage. Per
WP:GEOLAND,
If a Wikipedia article cannot be developed using known sources, information on the feature can instead be included in a more general article on local geography.
This article cannot be developed using sources that I can find, so redirection to the place where local geography is handled seems appropriate. I do not oppose deletion outright; there is very little content in the article of encyclopedic value. — Mhawk10 ( talk) 05:26, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Missvain (
talk)
17:26, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. USGS domestic names search shows four entries for Honey Hill in New York state but none are in Herkimer County. RedWolf ( talk) 20:36, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Someone created hundreds of thousands of these hills in New York State, hills that have no special features other than a name, and it's good to be levelling them.
Geschichte (
talk)
21:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- The creator of this particular article,
420Traveler, is actually very much still active, creating a new article every few days, although recent creations seem to be decently sourced. I contacted them
on their talk page a few weeks before nominating this article, but got no response, and apparently they haven't taken notice of this AfD either.
Lennart97 (
talk)
21:22, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- I contacted them as well about GNIS stubs and they said there are sources but they haven't been added yet. I'm not sure that an editor who thinks it's OK to move such an article to mainspace should have Autopatrol permission, however it looks like most of their articles end up being sourced in the end. – dlthewave ☎ 22:01, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- The creator of this particular article,
420Traveler, is actually very much still active, creating a new article every few days, although recent creations seem to be decently sourced. I contacted them
on their talk page a few weeks before nominating this article, but got no response, and apparently they haven't taken notice of this AfD either.
Lennart97 (
talk)
21:22, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- Delete.Lets not drag this out any more, I agree to delete this, must have been a mistake that it was created. Also, @Dlthewave as far as having Autopatrol permission, look at all the articles ive created and expanded to GA status such as many of the Kansas highway articles, river articles, lake articles. Also look up the description of a stub article. - 420Traveler ( talk) 09:02, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
- Of course you've done a lot of good article expansions as well, I'm not trying to take away from that, and it looks like most of your recent creations are well-sourced. But there's also pretty strong consensus that creating geo stubs with no sources or sourced only to GNIS is disruptive as other editors must do the legwork to verify that the place actually exists and search for secondary coverage. I would hope that an Autopatrolled editor could be trusted to never do that. – dlthewave ☎ 14:23, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Hog Farm Talk 14:20, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
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- Honey Hill (Herkimer County, New York) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Unsourced. I can find no evidence of this summit passing WP:GEOLAND, nor can it be found in GNIS. Lennart97 ( talk) 20:07, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Lennart97 ( talk) 20:07, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:43, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete It's a non-notable hill. Oaktree b ( talk) 01:19, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Can't find anything in Newspapers.Com on it except that the "Golf Club of Newport" used to be the "Honey Hill Golf Club" but even if that were notable it would be for the club, not the hill. BBQboffin ( talk) 01:47, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - Non-notable hill fails NGEO. – dlthewave ☎ 04:58, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to
Herkimer County, New York#Geography. I'm seeing next to zero significant coverage. Per
WP:GEOLAND,
If a Wikipedia article cannot be developed using known sources, information on the feature can instead be included in a more general article on local geography.
This article cannot be developed using sources that I can find, so redirection to the place where local geography is handled seems appropriate. I do not oppose deletion outright; there is very little content in the article of encyclopedic value. — Mhawk10 ( talk) 05:26, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Missvain (
talk)
17:26, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. USGS domestic names search shows four entries for Honey Hill in New York state but none are in Herkimer County. RedWolf ( talk) 20:36, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Someone created hundreds of thousands of these hills in New York State, hills that have no special features other than a name, and it's good to be levelling them.
Geschichte (
talk)
21:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- The creator of this particular article,
420Traveler, is actually very much still active, creating a new article every few days, although recent creations seem to be decently sourced. I contacted them
on their talk page a few weeks before nominating this article, but got no response, and apparently they haven't taken notice of this AfD either.
Lennart97 (
talk)
21:22, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- I contacted them as well about GNIS stubs and they said there are sources but they haven't been added yet. I'm not sure that an editor who thinks it's OK to move such an article to mainspace should have Autopatrol permission, however it looks like most of their articles end up being sourced in the end. – dlthewave ☎ 22:01, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- The creator of this particular article,
420Traveler, is actually very much still active, creating a new article every few days, although recent creations seem to be decently sourced. I contacted them
on their talk page a few weeks before nominating this article, but got no response, and apparently they haven't taken notice of this AfD either.
Lennart97 (
talk)
21:22, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- Delete.Lets not drag this out any more, I agree to delete this, must have been a mistake that it was created. Also, @Dlthewave as far as having Autopatrol permission, look at all the articles ive created and expanded to GA status such as many of the Kansas highway articles, river articles, lake articles. Also look up the description of a stub article. - 420Traveler ( talk) 09:02, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
- Of course you've done a lot of good article expansions as well, I'm not trying to take away from that, and it looks like most of your recent creations are well-sourced. But there's also pretty strong consensus that creating geo stubs with no sources or sourced only to GNIS is disruptive as other editors must do the legwork to verify that the place actually exists and search for secondary coverage. I would hope that an Autopatrolled editor could be trusted to never do that. – dlthewave ☎ 14:23, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.