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The result was delete. NorthAmerica 1000 00:26, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
HintonBurdick Grand Canyon Trophy
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Another rivalry that fails WP:GNG and WP:NRIVALRY, no national sources that indicates this is considered a rivalry, just local blogs. Delete Secret account 23:56, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete - Non-notable rivalry trophy for an arguably non-notable college football "rivalry". Subject trophy does not satisfy the applicable notability guidelines with significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources per WP:NRIVALRY and WP:GNG. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 23:25, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
- Comment I'm not going to !vote on this, but it raises the question about what to do about the other rivalries in the Big Sky Conference football rivalry navbox. A lot of those and lot of the games in
List of NCAA college football rivalry games look pretty minor to me. Where I grew up, there was always a lot of local interest in the
Apple Cup, but not much outside Washington State. The only national attention that
Apple Cup mentions is 2008, when it was noticed because that year it was between two of the worst teams in college football. But, it's important locally. If we leave this in place, over time it will accumulate cites. Such is the nature of college football. –
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- Comment - Actually, the Apple Cup has most of the characteristics of a traditional college rivalry: two universities that share a long history, a common recruiting base, are rivals outside football and/or other sports, two major universities within the same state, and most alumni view the schools as rivals. It also has attracted a lot of regional, if not national coverage, as a rivalry game. Here's a 2014 example: [1]. Compare the coverage of the Apple Cup to that of the Hinton-Burdick Trophy, and you will see a significant difference in the depth. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 18:00, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Not finding significant, independent coverage of the type expected under WP:GNG and WP:NRIVALRY to establish that this relatively brief series (did not even become an annual event until 2008) was or is a sufficiently notable rivalry. Cbl62 ( talk) 19:42, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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The result was delete. NorthAmerica 1000 00:26, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
HintonBurdick Grand Canyon Trophy
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Another rivalry that fails WP:GNG and WP:NRIVALRY, no national sources that indicates this is considered a rivalry, just local blogs. Delete Secret account 23:56, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete - Non-notable rivalry trophy for an arguably non-notable college football "rivalry". Subject trophy does not satisfy the applicable notability guidelines with significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources per WP:NRIVALRY and WP:GNG. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 23:25, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
- Comment I'm not going to !vote on this, but it raises the question about what to do about the other rivalries in the Big Sky Conference football rivalry navbox. A lot of those and lot of the games in
List of NCAA college football rivalry games look pretty minor to me. Where I grew up, there was always a lot of local interest in the
Apple Cup, but not much outside Washington State. The only national attention that
Apple Cup mentions is 2008, when it was noticed because that year it was between two of the worst teams in college football. But, it's important locally. If we leave this in place, over time it will accumulate cites. Such is the nature of college football. –
Margin1522 (
talk) 09:51, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - Actually, the Apple Cup has most of the characteristics of a traditional college rivalry: two universities that share a long history, a common recruiting base, are rivals outside football and/or other sports, two major universities within the same state, and most alumni view the schools as rivals. It also has attracted a lot of regional, if not national coverage, as a rivalry game. Here's a 2014 example: [1]. Compare the coverage of the Apple Cup to that of the Hinton-Burdick Trophy, and you will see a significant difference in the depth. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 18:00, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Not finding significant, independent coverage of the type expected under WP:GNG and WP:NRIVALRY to establish that this relatively brief series (did not even become an annual event until 2008) was or is a sufficiently notable rivalry. Cbl62 ( talk) 19:42, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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