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Fails
WP:GNG and
WP:NGEO.
Run-of-the-mill park in a small town built on the site of historic
Morristown College. But the college was demolished (and de-listed from the National Register), and Heritage Park was built on the empty field. The park is not
demonstrably historic, and when it opened it received some note in the local papers, though I was unable to locate any source suggesting any significant coverage.
Magnolia677 (
talk)
23:33, 14 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep: First off, Morristown does not classify as a “small town,” it is a medium-sized city of 30,000, with a metropolitan area of 140,000.
Maryville, also in
Tennessee, has population 1,000 shy of Morristown, and an
article of a park there of significantly lesser quality. The user that has posted the nomination of deletion has had a history of reverting my edits, basing on his/her perspective as
disruptive, even when my edits had no intention of harming the articles that I edit. I have speculated the user is participating in
hounding me.
Article is notable as park is one of the largest in Morristown Parks and Recreation department. No other park in the department has an article. Officials eyed park project as opportunity for neighborhood revitalization and development. [1] Park is also used for popular arts festival in Morristown after relocating from another park.[2] --
AppalachianCentrist (
talk)
00:08, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Magnolia677: I am accusing you. It appears that every time I add or contribute to articles, my edits are often get reverted by you, and it makes me curious if you are hounding me. Some edits regarding geographic locations on cities, like the ones you reverted on Morristown, were made because the geographic content of pages such as the larger cities or
Knoxville or
Chattanooga, which contain content such as route descriptions in those cities, and overall geographic location. Some of these do not necessarily have cited references.
Keep This is a well-sourced article, and arguable is on the National Register. Meets GNG. Small-ish towns can have articles on notable parks. ~EDDY(
talk/
contribs)~
20:16, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Editorofthewiki: The college was in fact on the National Register, but when it was torn down in 2017 it was removed from the Register, and Heritage Park was built on the empty field left behind. How could a three-year-old park built on an empty field arguably be on the National Register?
Magnolia677 (
talk)
13:17, 16 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete (or merge) - this is not a 'well-sourced' article - all the coverage relating to the park is from the local paper or local news channel. By this logic, every single local park in the US could get an article (this is a slippery slope argument, but a true one).
Morristown College -is- notable, which is why it already has an article. Sources saying that they are seeking 'art in the park' nominees is something that is run in every local paper across the US and using it to establish notability is just incorrect. WBIR sources are arguably more notable, but they are still local news stories about a local park opening. This absolutely does not pass GNG and no real significance has been established. A mention at
Morristown College would make sense, no need to merge all of the content.
‡ Єl Cid of Valenciatalk15:20, 16 July 2020 (UTC)reply
You said it yourself, it is a slippery slope argument. Maybe we should create more articles on local parks if they meet GNG, I know I've done at least one. It is significant as the site of a former college, and its role in the community, with enough sourcing. ~EDDY(
talk/
contribs)~
19:44, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Merge and Redirect to the target suggested below. Due to lacking regional or national coverage of the topic. Per the notability guidelines. Plus, everything in the sources is extremely trivial stuff that most public parks get coverage in local news sources for. There is the Tennessee Encyclopedia source, but it's about the college not the park. Which already has it's own article. So, there's zero reason to keep this based on that. Otherwise, it's just a useless fork. --
Adamant1 (
talk)
05:36, 31 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Merge and redirect into
Morristown_College#Heritage_Park where the only notability related to the park appears to be, and where there's already a section. Perhaps we can get a recognition from AppalachianCentrist of the value of consensus after an open discussion. --
Lockley (
talk)
20:56, 8 August 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Fails
WP:GNG and
WP:NGEO.
Run-of-the-mill park in a small town built on the site of historic
Morristown College. But the college was demolished (and de-listed from the National Register), and Heritage Park was built on the empty field. The park is not
demonstrably historic, and when it opened it received some note in the local papers, though I was unable to locate any source suggesting any significant coverage.
Magnolia677 (
talk)
23:33, 14 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep: First off, Morristown does not classify as a “small town,” it is a medium-sized city of 30,000, with a metropolitan area of 140,000.
Maryville, also in
Tennessee, has population 1,000 shy of Morristown, and an
article of a park there of significantly lesser quality. The user that has posted the nomination of deletion has had a history of reverting my edits, basing on his/her perspective as
disruptive, even when my edits had no intention of harming the articles that I edit. I have speculated the user is participating in
hounding me.
Article is notable as park is one of the largest in Morristown Parks and Recreation department. No other park in the department has an article. Officials eyed park project as opportunity for neighborhood revitalization and development. [1] Park is also used for popular arts festival in Morristown after relocating from another park.[2] --
AppalachianCentrist (
talk)
00:08, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Magnolia677: I am accusing you. It appears that every time I add or contribute to articles, my edits are often get reverted by you, and it makes me curious if you are hounding me. Some edits regarding geographic locations on cities, like the ones you reverted on Morristown, were made because the geographic content of pages such as the larger cities or
Knoxville or
Chattanooga, which contain content such as route descriptions in those cities, and overall geographic location. Some of these do not necessarily have cited references.
Keep This is a well-sourced article, and arguable is on the National Register. Meets GNG. Small-ish towns can have articles on notable parks. ~EDDY(
talk/
contribs)~
20:16, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Editorofthewiki: The college was in fact on the National Register, but when it was torn down in 2017 it was removed from the Register, and Heritage Park was built on the empty field left behind. How could a three-year-old park built on an empty field arguably be on the National Register?
Magnolia677 (
talk)
13:17, 16 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete (or merge) - this is not a 'well-sourced' article - all the coverage relating to the park is from the local paper or local news channel. By this logic, every single local park in the US could get an article (this is a slippery slope argument, but a true one).
Morristown College -is- notable, which is why it already has an article. Sources saying that they are seeking 'art in the park' nominees is something that is run in every local paper across the US and using it to establish notability is just incorrect. WBIR sources are arguably more notable, but they are still local news stories about a local park opening. This absolutely does not pass GNG and no real significance has been established. A mention at
Morristown College would make sense, no need to merge all of the content.
‡ Єl Cid of Valenciatalk15:20, 16 July 2020 (UTC)reply
You said it yourself, it is a slippery slope argument. Maybe we should create more articles on local parks if they meet GNG, I know I've done at least one. It is significant as the site of a former college, and its role in the community, with enough sourcing. ~EDDY(
talk/
contribs)~
19:44, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Merge and Redirect to the target suggested below. Due to lacking regional or national coverage of the topic. Per the notability guidelines. Plus, everything in the sources is extremely trivial stuff that most public parks get coverage in local news sources for. There is the Tennessee Encyclopedia source, but it's about the college not the park. Which already has it's own article. So, there's zero reason to keep this based on that. Otherwise, it's just a useless fork. --
Adamant1 (
talk)
05:36, 31 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Merge and redirect into
Morristown_College#Heritage_Park where the only notability related to the park appears to be, and where there's already a section. Perhaps we can get a recognition from AppalachianCentrist of the value of consensus after an open discussion. --
Lockley (
talk)
20:56, 8 August 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.