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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Kraxler ( talk) 00:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
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Canadian actress. I came across this hoping to create a dab and moving this to Helen King (actress). But having looked for sources, I haven't been able to find any for WP:GNG or WP:ENT. The sole article reference is her IMDB page. Fuebaey ( talk) 23:42, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: I'm kind of torn on this one. On one hand, there aren't a lot of sources. On the other, she has had three major speaking gigs, one in Potatoes and Dragons (for 78 episodes), one as a major role in the Prince of Persia game, and one in Magi-Nation (6 episodes, although the part in question is for Shimmer, which was 3 episodes). You're not really going to find a lot of sources for a voice actor since they're rarely the focus of media coverage, so in these cases we have to look at the parts to see if the media was notable and if the answer is yes, if the role/part was major enough. I'm leaning towards sort of a weak keep or a redirect to Potatoes and Dragons. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:21, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep: Sources need some improvement, for sure, but she has served as a voice actress on several notable shows, and like the above commentator mentioned, on one for 78 episodes. I'm convinced of notability. SuperCarnivore591 ( talk) 16:52, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 02:51, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 02:51, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
- Weak keep The problem is indeed finding sources. She has common names, voice actress, from Scotland, living in Canada. None of which are likely to produce a lot of hits. One will have to go in the "side door" so to speak and search for the shows she was in, as a straight up search of her name yields little. By searching shows, I have found [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]. CBC seems to have very little coverage of their shows but Me Too! aired in both English and French per [6] and had at least 14 episodes per the writer [7]. Her body of work exhibits some notability as she would not keep being hired if her work were not solid. Wikipedia does not require that the sources be cited, but that they exist. It also does not require that she be famous, only notable and recognized. Clearly, if one were to take the time and document her participation in all of the shows she has been in, that would be significant proof of creation of a body of work and satisfactory to meet GNG. I added sources and removed the tag only sourced to IMdB. While the fountainhead source may not be entirely independent, it can be backed up with additional souring should one take the time to look. SusunW ( talk) 16:31, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep: Multiple reliable third-party sources demonstrate a solid media career. Article needs work, but topic is notable and article adequate to establish same. Montanabw (talk) 05:00, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Kraxler ( talk) 00:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- Helen King ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Canadian actress. I came across this hoping to create a dab and moving this to Helen King (actress). But having looked for sources, I haven't been able to find any for WP:GNG or WP:ENT. The sole article reference is her IMDB page. Fuebaey ( talk) 23:42, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: I'm kind of torn on this one. On one hand, there aren't a lot of sources. On the other, she has had three major speaking gigs, one in Potatoes and Dragons (for 78 episodes), one as a major role in the Prince of Persia game, and one in Magi-Nation (6 episodes, although the part in question is for Shimmer, which was 3 episodes). You're not really going to find a lot of sources for a voice actor since they're rarely the focus of media coverage, so in these cases we have to look at the parts to see if the media was notable and if the answer is yes, if the role/part was major enough. I'm leaning towards sort of a weak keep or a redirect to Potatoes and Dragons. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:21, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep: Sources need some improvement, for sure, but she has served as a voice actress on several notable shows, and like the above commentator mentioned, on one for 78 episodes. I'm convinced of notability. SuperCarnivore591 ( talk) 16:52, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 23:42, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 23:42, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 02:51, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 02:51, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
- Weak keep The problem is indeed finding sources. She has common names, voice actress, from Scotland, living in Canada. None of which are likely to produce a lot of hits. One will have to go in the "side door" so to speak and search for the shows she was in, as a straight up search of her name yields little. By searching shows, I have found [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]. CBC seems to have very little coverage of their shows but Me Too! aired in both English and French per [6] and had at least 14 episodes per the writer [7]. Her body of work exhibits some notability as she would not keep being hired if her work were not solid. Wikipedia does not require that the sources be cited, but that they exist. It also does not require that she be famous, only notable and recognized. Clearly, if one were to take the time and document her participation in all of the shows she has been in, that would be significant proof of creation of a body of work and satisfactory to meet GNG. I added sources and removed the tag only sourced to IMdB. While the fountainhead source may not be entirely independent, it can be backed up with additional souring should one take the time to look. SusunW ( talk) 16:31, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep: Multiple reliable third-party sources demonstrate a solid media career. Article needs work, but topic is notable and article adequate to establish same. Montanabw (talk) 05:00, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
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