The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Overall consensus is for the article to be retained. However, there is agreement in this discussion that the article requires significant copy editing and cleanup to address promotional tone. As such, I have added the {{Cleanup AfD}} atop the article. North America100020:27, 16 November 2017 (UTC)reply
Has had a warning for violating
WP:NOTADVERTISING all year with no resolution. I was going to see if I could clean it up, but it appears to be too full of content that violates
WP:NOTADVERTISING. Violates
WP:G11. It looks like a copy paste from a company website, with news updates and awards. It also does not provide any sourcing for most of the information.
Anon1-3483579 (
talk)
01:58, 26 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep. I agree that article is in very poor condition and written like an advertisement. But topic is notable and major project so should not be deleted but rewritten. You may find plenty of news sources referring to it.--
Nizil (
talk)
05:09, 26 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete per
WP:NOTFUTURE,
WP:G11, and
WP:NOTADVERTISING.
Nizil It seems to have news sources referring to it, but the development appears to be in very early stages and will be for a while. Another concern I see here is that any properly sourced information is just going to be a project/product announcement which could be against
WP:NOTFUTURE. I'm not sure it can remain, as if it were to abide by
WP:NOTFUTURE,
WP:G11, and
WP:NOTADVERTISING, it may be a very short article not worth noting. I'm not saying the GIFT project doesn't matter, but it may not have a place on wikipedia yet. -
Anon1-3483579 (
talk)
06:56, 26 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Anon1-3483579, I have already said that article is in poor shape and looks like an advertisement. It is an underconstruction project and three towers are already built so it can have information on them and other proposals like we do in underconstruction infrastructure projects like Metro rails. The issues here should be is it notable or not to have an article here. And I think it is a major infrastructure project in
Gujarat state and should have an article.
WP:NOTFUTURE and
WP:NOTADVERTISING can be dealt with by cleaning up the article.
WP:G11 specifically says "This applies to pages that are exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten to conform with Wikipedia:NOTFORPROMOTION. If a subject is notable and the content could plausibly be replaced with text that complies with neutral point of view, this is preferable to deletion." So rewriting this article is preferable to deletion.--
Nizil (
talk)
05:24, 27 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Searching under the article title and "GIFT City," there does seem to be enough English language sources to meet
WP:GEOLAND for city districts. I'm aware that there can be advertorial issues in even major Indian dailies, but I still think we have enough coverage in reliable sources, taken as a whole. And of course there's the issue that this is only English and there would be undoubtedly be
Gujarati language sources, too. Whatever the issues with the article, I'd say keep.
Shawn in Montreal (
talk)
15:39, 30 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep. The article does need significant work, but the subject seems to meet
WP:GEOLAND. An alternative to deletion, if it is decided that this should not be its own article, would be to merge it with the article on the larger geographic area.
331dot (
talk)
17:07, 9 November 2017 (UTC)reply
331dot, merging with the larger geographical area is a good suggestion. I would support that. The development is far from completed, so I'm not sure it is significant enough to be considered a significant city yet. -
Anon1-3483579 (
talk)
18:04, 9 November 2017 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Overall consensus is for the article to be retained. However, there is agreement in this discussion that the article requires significant copy editing and cleanup to address promotional tone. As such, I have added the {{Cleanup AfD}} atop the article. North America100020:27, 16 November 2017 (UTC)reply
Has had a warning for violating
WP:NOTADVERTISING all year with no resolution. I was going to see if I could clean it up, but it appears to be too full of content that violates
WP:NOTADVERTISING. Violates
WP:G11. It looks like a copy paste from a company website, with news updates and awards. It also does not provide any sourcing for most of the information.
Anon1-3483579 (
talk)
01:58, 26 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep. I agree that article is in very poor condition and written like an advertisement. But topic is notable and major project so should not be deleted but rewritten. You may find plenty of news sources referring to it.--
Nizil (
talk)
05:09, 26 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete per
WP:NOTFUTURE,
WP:G11, and
WP:NOTADVERTISING.
Nizil It seems to have news sources referring to it, but the development appears to be in very early stages and will be for a while. Another concern I see here is that any properly sourced information is just going to be a project/product announcement which could be against
WP:NOTFUTURE. I'm not sure it can remain, as if it were to abide by
WP:NOTFUTURE,
WP:G11, and
WP:NOTADVERTISING, it may be a very short article not worth noting. I'm not saying the GIFT project doesn't matter, but it may not have a place on wikipedia yet. -
Anon1-3483579 (
talk)
06:56, 26 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Anon1-3483579, I have already said that article is in poor shape and looks like an advertisement. It is an underconstruction project and three towers are already built so it can have information on them and other proposals like we do in underconstruction infrastructure projects like Metro rails. The issues here should be is it notable or not to have an article here. And I think it is a major infrastructure project in
Gujarat state and should have an article.
WP:NOTFUTURE and
WP:NOTADVERTISING can be dealt with by cleaning up the article.
WP:G11 specifically says "This applies to pages that are exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten to conform with Wikipedia:NOTFORPROMOTION. If a subject is notable and the content could plausibly be replaced with text that complies with neutral point of view, this is preferable to deletion." So rewriting this article is preferable to deletion.--
Nizil (
talk)
05:24, 27 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Searching under the article title and "GIFT City," there does seem to be enough English language sources to meet
WP:GEOLAND for city districts. I'm aware that there can be advertorial issues in even major Indian dailies, but I still think we have enough coverage in reliable sources, taken as a whole. And of course there's the issue that this is only English and there would be undoubtedly be
Gujarati language sources, too. Whatever the issues with the article, I'd say keep.
Shawn in Montreal (
talk)
15:39, 30 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep. The article does need significant work, but the subject seems to meet
WP:GEOLAND. An alternative to deletion, if it is decided that this should not be its own article, would be to merge it with the article on the larger geographic area.
331dot (
talk)
17:07, 9 November 2017 (UTC)reply
331dot, merging with the larger geographical area is a good suggestion. I would support that. The development is far from completed, so I'm not sure it is significant enough to be considered a significant city yet. -
Anon1-3483579 (
talk)
18:04, 9 November 2017 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.