The result was Merge to Model (person). One of the things which has begun to annoy me at AfD is the poor quality of commentary. This is strongly illustrated by this AfD; of the 12 commenting users, not a single one has cited policy that I can see (although I commend the nominator on the quality of his initial post). Given the almost complete lack of reliable sources, which nobody, it seems, has tried to remedy, the most appropriate action is to merge. If it is a notable cultural phenomenon it should be included, but nobody here has demonstrated that it is an independently notable cultural phenomenon. Given that most of the useful content has already been merged by User:Roninbk (props for that) there's no problem from my end with someone WP:BOLDly redirecting it. I would ask all users to remember that AfD is not a vote - the strongest weight goes to the user with the strongest argument, and WP:GHITS does not constitute either. Ironholds ( talk) 04:29, 12 January 2011 (UTC) reply
The article consists of original research as it doesn't have reliable sources and, therefore, doesn't meet the criteria for verifiability or neutral point of view. Doing some search engine tests, I found no reliable sources about this topic in English with Google or using "Gravure" with Google Scholar, or Google News. All Google results point to websites that are not reliable or that are questionable sources. Considering this and that if fails in three of the main content policies, I also don't think that this article has notability to be included in Wikipedia and I believe that the article falls into what Wikipedia is not. Checking the Japanese counterpart, I also noticed that the Japanese article is full of original research and also doesn't provide reliable sources. The English article is essentially covering the same topic that the article Pin-up girl does. In my opinion, Gravure idol fulfills the criteria of reasons for deletion. Jfgslo ( talk) 20:30, 28 December 2010 (UTC) reply
The result was Merge to Model (person). One of the things which has begun to annoy me at AfD is the poor quality of commentary. This is strongly illustrated by this AfD; of the 12 commenting users, not a single one has cited policy that I can see (although I commend the nominator on the quality of his initial post). Given the almost complete lack of reliable sources, which nobody, it seems, has tried to remedy, the most appropriate action is to merge. If it is a notable cultural phenomenon it should be included, but nobody here has demonstrated that it is an independently notable cultural phenomenon. Given that most of the useful content has already been merged by User:Roninbk (props for that) there's no problem from my end with someone WP:BOLDly redirecting it. I would ask all users to remember that AfD is not a vote - the strongest weight goes to the user with the strongest argument, and WP:GHITS does not constitute either. Ironholds ( talk) 04:29, 12 January 2011 (UTC) reply
The article consists of original research as it doesn't have reliable sources and, therefore, doesn't meet the criteria for verifiability or neutral point of view. Doing some search engine tests, I found no reliable sources about this topic in English with Google or using "Gravure" with Google Scholar, or Google News. All Google results point to websites that are not reliable or that are questionable sources. Considering this and that if fails in three of the main content policies, I also don't think that this article has notability to be included in Wikipedia and I believe that the article falls into what Wikipedia is not. Checking the Japanese counterpart, I also noticed that the Japanese article is full of original research and also doesn't provide reliable sources. The English article is essentially covering the same topic that the article Pin-up girl does. In my opinion, Gravure idol fulfills the criteria of reasons for deletion. Jfgslo ( talk) 20:30, 28 December 2010 (UTC) reply