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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. Spartaz Humbug! 07:18, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
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Non-notable anime designer. Only notable lead work is Groizer X, otherwise just another robot anime supporting/episodic artist. Recommend redirect to Groizer X. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 16:47, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
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- Comment - Just to provide some information: it seems both the article and the nominator might not be best characterizing the artist's work. He is less a designer than a manga artist with a number of works under his name. According to the Japanese Wikipedia, his most representative work is Tsuribaka taishō ja:釣りバカ大将, which ran in CoroCoro Comic to a total of ten volumes (a sequel ran for 5 volumes--both are now available at Comic Park [1]). He is thus known for his original fishing manga. Otherwise, he is known for his manga versions of famous anime (searches of his name in Japanese produce quite a number of blog articles on his manga on Mazinger Z: [2], [3], [4], [5]; or on Getter Robot: [6], [7], etc.). I am not sure this is enough to save the article, but I wanted to make sure there is no misrepresentation. Michitaro ( talk) 02:08, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- Are you saying he's better known as a manga artist of manga adaptations of anime series? Why isn't that in the article? The way it is stated now he appears to be a minor anime character designer.
AngusWOOF (
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18:48, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- Never having heard of this guy before, I can't say why the article was written the way it was. I just checked on the Japanese Wikipedia page and then did independent searches and reported the results here. He seems to have both produced his own original manga (especially about fishing, one of which seems to have been reasonably successful) as well as did manga adaptations of successful anime. Michitaro ( talk) 06:04, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
- Are you saying he's better known as a manga artist of manga adaptations of anime series? Why isn't that in the article? The way it is stated now he appears to be a minor anime character designer.
AngusWOOF (
bark •
sniff)
18:48, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 01:24, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 01:24, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
- Unfortunately the articles on Japanese and French Wikipedia have hardly any references as well (JA Wikipedia only shows 1) so it would have a hard time passing
WP:GNG. The independent searches sound promising. As with others, if you'd like to move this over to Draft and work on it so that it can pass notability, then that could work.
AngusWOOF (
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15:41, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
- I have not been able to find much in the way of RS on the net, though I am less familiar with where to look for them in the case of manga (though I know they are just not as available compared to those for other media). But I do know a couple of good printed reference books for manga artists (basically biographical dictionaries), so I can check those to see if he appears in those. Michitaro ( talk) 12:24, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
- Unfortunately the articles on Japanese and French Wikipedia have hardly any references as well (JA Wikipedia only shows 1) so it would have a hard time passing
WP:GNG. The independent searches sound promising. As with others, if you'd like to move this over to Draft and work on it so that it can pass notability, then that could work.
AngusWOOF (
bark •
sniff)
15:41, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 10:41, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 10:41, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. Spartaz Humbug! 07:18, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
- Gosaku Ota ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Non-notable anime designer. Only notable lead work is Groizer X, otherwise just another robot anime supporting/episodic artist. Recommend redirect to Groizer X. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 16:47, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
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- Comment - Just to provide some information: it seems both the article and the nominator might not be best characterizing the artist's work. He is less a designer than a manga artist with a number of works under his name. According to the Japanese Wikipedia, his most representative work is Tsuribaka taishō ja:釣りバカ大将, which ran in CoroCoro Comic to a total of ten volumes (a sequel ran for 5 volumes--both are now available at Comic Park [1]). He is thus known for his original fishing manga. Otherwise, he is known for his manga versions of famous anime (searches of his name in Japanese produce quite a number of blog articles on his manga on Mazinger Z: [2], [3], [4], [5]; or on Getter Robot: [6], [7], etc.). I am not sure this is enough to save the article, but I wanted to make sure there is no misrepresentation. Michitaro ( talk) 02:08, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- Are you saying he's better known as a manga artist of manga adaptations of anime series? Why isn't that in the article? The way it is stated now he appears to be a minor anime character designer.
AngusWOOF (
bark •
sniff)
18:48, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- Never having heard of this guy before, I can't say why the article was written the way it was. I just checked on the Japanese Wikipedia page and then did independent searches and reported the results here. He seems to have both produced his own original manga (especially about fishing, one of which seems to have been reasonably successful) as well as did manga adaptations of successful anime. Michitaro ( talk) 06:04, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
- Are you saying he's better known as a manga artist of manga adaptations of anime series? Why isn't that in the article? The way it is stated now he appears to be a minor anime character designer.
AngusWOOF (
bark •
sniff)
18:48, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 01:24, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 01:24, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
- Unfortunately the articles on Japanese and French Wikipedia have hardly any references as well (JA Wikipedia only shows 1) so it would have a hard time passing
WP:GNG. The independent searches sound promising. As with others, if you'd like to move this over to Draft and work on it so that it can pass notability, then that could work.
AngusWOOF (
bark •
sniff)
15:41, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
- I have not been able to find much in the way of RS on the net, though I am less familiar with where to look for them in the case of manga (though I know they are just not as available compared to those for other media). But I do know a couple of good printed reference books for manga artists (basically biographical dictionaries), so I can check those to see if he appears in those. Michitaro ( talk) 12:24, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
- Unfortunately the articles on Japanese and French Wikipedia have hardly any references as well (JA Wikipedia only shows 1) so it would have a hard time passing
WP:GNG. The independent searches sound promising. As with others, if you'd like to move this over to Draft and work on it so that it can pass notability, then that could work.
AngusWOOF (
bark •
sniff)
15:41, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 10:41, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 10:41, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
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