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The result was Draftify. Liz Read! Talk! 22:04, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
Gil Peñalosa
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WP:BLP of an urban planner and as yet unelected political candidate, not
properly referenced as passing a Wikipedia notability standard. As always, people do not get Wikipedia articles just for standing as candidates in future elections -- the notability test at
WP:NPOL is holding a notable political office, not just running for one, while candidates get articles only if either (a) they already had preexisting notability for other reasons that would already have gotten them an article anyway, or (b) they can show a credible reason why their candidacy should be seen as a special case of significantly greater and more enduring significance than most other people's candidacies.
But neither of those has been shown here at all; there's one news article about his candidacy, which is not in and of itself enough to vault his candidacy over the
ten year test for enduring importance, and the content about his background and prior career is referenced entirely to sources that are not support for notability at all, such as the
self-published primary source websites of directly affiliated organizations,
blogs and Q&A interviews in which he's talking about himself in the first person.
Obviously no prejudice against recreation in October if he wins the election, but simply being a candidate is not grounds for an article at all, and nothing else here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him and his work from having to be the subject of a lot more than just one piece of media coverage.
Bearcat (
talk)
12:00, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and Canada. Bearcat ( talk) 12:00, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I shall offer the comment that indeed, there was notability long before the political candidacy. I acknowledge that the article in its current form does not show that. What makes me hesitant to fix this deficiency myself is that I was heavily involved in getting Peñalosa to a conference as a keynote speaker (which then enabled me to populate the Commons category). Does that constitute a conflict of interest? I have a long list of CoIs and he's not on it, but maybe I should be extra careful at the moment given the political candidacy. I'll leave it there. Schwede 66 12:20, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Draftify pending election. Think that should be the default for all unelected but future candidates' articles. Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 14:07, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Draftify or redirect to the article about the election. October is a long way off yet, and registering now is only really a formality (I could register myself, all you do is pay a fee and get things signed and do a bit of paperwork, we don't have political parties to get a nomination from, for example.
https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/elections/candidates-third-party-advertisers/candidate-information/become-a-candidate/). It's a rather simple process to do and in no way gives you notability... He's not notable otherwise as an urban planner/office worker.
Oaktree b (
talk)
20:20, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- This was likely created to help his campaign along/help with fundraising, but I have no worries as to a COI or anything nefarious going on, just a general thought. Oaktree b ( talk) 20:25, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was Draftify. Liz Read! Talk! 22:04, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
Gil Peñalosa
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WP:BLP of an urban planner and as yet unelected political candidate, not
properly referenced as passing a Wikipedia notability standard. As always, people do not get Wikipedia articles just for standing as candidates in future elections -- the notability test at
WP:NPOL is holding a notable political office, not just running for one, while candidates get articles only if either (a) they already had preexisting notability for other reasons that would already have gotten them an article anyway, or (b) they can show a credible reason why their candidacy should be seen as a special case of significantly greater and more enduring significance than most other people's candidacies.
But neither of those has been shown here at all; there's one news article about his candidacy, which is not in and of itself enough to vault his candidacy over the
ten year test for enduring importance, and the content about his background and prior career is referenced entirely to sources that are not support for notability at all, such as the
self-published primary source websites of directly affiliated organizations,
blogs and Q&A interviews in which he's talking about himself in the first person.
Obviously no prejudice against recreation in October if he wins the election, but simply being a candidate is not grounds for an article at all, and nothing else here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him and his work from having to be the subject of a lot more than just one piece of media coverage.
Bearcat (
talk)
12:00, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and Canada. Bearcat ( talk) 12:00, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I shall offer the comment that indeed, there was notability long before the political candidacy. I acknowledge that the article in its current form does not show that. What makes me hesitant to fix this deficiency myself is that I was heavily involved in getting Peñalosa to a conference as a keynote speaker (which then enabled me to populate the Commons category). Does that constitute a conflict of interest? I have a long list of CoIs and he's not on it, but maybe I should be extra careful at the moment given the political candidacy. I'll leave it there. Schwede 66 12:20, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Draftify pending election. Think that should be the default for all unelected but future candidates' articles. Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 14:07, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Draftify or redirect to the article about the election. October is a long way off yet, and registering now is only really a formality (I could register myself, all you do is pay a fee and get things signed and do a bit of paperwork, we don't have political parties to get a nomination from, for example.
https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/elections/candidates-third-party-advertisers/candidate-information/become-a-candidate/). It's a rather simple process to do and in no way gives you notability... He's not notable otherwise as an urban planner/office worker.
Oaktree b (
talk)
20:20, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- This was likely created to help his campaign along/help with fundraising, but I have no worries as to a COI or anything nefarious going on, just a general thought. Oaktree b ( talk) 20:25, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.