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The result was no consensus. Stifle ( talk) 11:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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Mayors aren't inherently notable and there is no notability asserted in this, or that I could find online. I can find nothing to meet WP:POLITICIAN or WP:GNG online. I suspect there may be some paper sources but I haven't come across any. Boleyn ( talk) 20:58, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 21:31, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete. As author, I was over quick to give him and some other Flint mayors articles. Condensing them down to an expanded list (slowly). Spshu ( talk) 21:55, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete mayors are not inherently notable. We need to find sources to justify having an article. There have been books written on Flint but I am not sure they say much of the mayor. Plus one, lauding Flint as the best American city, was written about a decade before Poulos was mayor. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 22:10, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Question: I thought there was a guideline providing that mayors of cities with a population > 100,000 were deemed notable. If so, Flint in the 1960s (while Poulos was mayor) had a population of approximately 200,000. Cbl62 ( talk) 15:47, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- Per WP:POLOUTCOMES, mayors of regional prominent cities are ("at least regional prominence have usually survived AFD"), but they have to have more than the basic. I have only found one additional news article on him. Spshu ( talk) 22:36, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as the mayor of a large, well-known city, he rates. The consensus is fairly clear on this. Bearian ( talk) 03:51, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per Bearian. Flint had a population of 200,000 at the time he was mayor. I've added some sources. Unfortunately, archives of The Flint Journal (the most likely source to find additional significant coverage) are not available online. Cbl62 ( talk) 06:58, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Per above. It is also possible that a number of sources are available but they are offline. Accesscrawl ( talk) 05:32, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Stifle ( talk) 11:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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Mayors aren't inherently notable and there is no notability asserted in this, or that I could find online. I can find nothing to meet WP:POLITICIAN or WP:GNG online. I suspect there may be some paper sources but I haven't come across any. Boleyn ( talk) 20:58, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 21:31, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 21:31, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. As author, I was over quick to give him and some other Flint mayors articles. Condensing them down to an expanded list (slowly). Spshu ( talk) 21:55, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete mayors are not inherently notable. We need to find sources to justify having an article. There have been books written on Flint but I am not sure they say much of the mayor. Plus one, lauding Flint as the best American city, was written about a decade before Poulos was mayor. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 22:10, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Question: I thought there was a guideline providing that mayors of cities with a population > 100,000 were deemed notable. If so, Flint in the 1960s (while Poulos was mayor) had a population of approximately 200,000. Cbl62 ( talk) 15:47, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- Per WP:POLOUTCOMES, mayors of regional prominent cities are ("at least regional prominence have usually survived AFD"), but they have to have more than the basic. I have only found one additional news article on him. Spshu ( talk) 22:36, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as the mayor of a large, well-known city, he rates. The consensus is fairly clear on this. Bearian ( talk) 03:51, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per Bearian. Flint had a population of 200,000 at the time he was mayor. I've added some sources. Unfortunately, archives of The Flint Journal (the most likely source to find additional significant coverage) are not available online. Cbl62 ( talk) 06:58, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Per above. It is also possible that a number of sources are available but they are offline. Accesscrawl ( talk) 05:32, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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