The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. After 3 relists there's still no consensus to Keep or Delete. ( non-admin closure) – Davey2010 ^Talk 03:19, 5 December 2015 (UTC) reply

George Jordac

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Recently created article about a non-notable author whose only claim to fame seems to be a self-published book. Briefly mentioned by Iranian TV when he died, but still a long way from established notability. A quick Internet search did not yield any further indicators of notability. Jeppiz ( talk) 02:00, 7 November 2015 (UTC) I am also nominating the self-published book, added yesterday by the same user, failing notability : reply

The Voice of Human Justice (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Jeppiz ( talk) 02:05, 7 November 2015 (UTC) reply

• Needs investigation - the article about the book claims that it is very well known in the Arab-speaking world, with over a million sales. I do not speak Arabic to search for suitable references, but it seems that we should look into the question of notability beyond just English-language references. -- Gronk Oz ( talk) 15:42, 7 November 2015 (UTC) reply

• Good point, though I think the claimed sales are mainly for Persian, not the Arab-speaking world, if I understand the source right. It sounds surprising, and if it is true, it sounds even more surprising the English translation would be self-published; publishing houses would be likely to jump at the opportunity to give out a translation of a book that has sold that much. So of course it's possible, but something seems strange. Needless to say, we're not in a hurry, and if somebody who speaks Persian finds reliable sources of notability, it would of course change the situation. In English, though, there seems to be next to nothing. Jeppiz ( talk) 16:25, 7 November 2015 (UTC) reply

• Keep George Jordac, not sure on The Voice of Human Justice. My Persian isn't too good, but I found enough articles in Arabic to convince me of this author's notability. See [1], [2], [3], [4]. An-Nahar and Al Arabiya, in particular, are high-quality sources. As for the book, I don't know. Worldcat shows over 100 library holdings in the US alone, and shows 18 editions, so I think it's unlikely that the book was self-published. I would probably lean on the side of keep. -- Cerebellum ( talk) 01:50, 14 November 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 23:07, 28 November 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lebanon-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 23:07, 28 November 2015 (UTC) reply

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